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Zelensky Asked If He'll Give Russia Any Part Of Ukraine

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Khandro | 13:06 Mon 11th Apr 2022 | News
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'Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky has said that he is "not ready to give away" any part of Ukraine, in return for peace in the country.

Speaking to CBS' Scott Pelley, Zelensky went on to say that he would never recognise Crimea as Russian territory, despite the peninsula being annexed by Russia in 2014.'


He keeps asking for more & more arms, lots of volunteers are coming forward, do you think he wants to drive the Russians out completely?
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I think he does & I hope he does. But with two implacable leaders it's their ordinary civilians & troops who will suffer & die and the infrastructure of Ukraine that will be destroyed.

Without a negotiated settlement Russia can never hope to peacefully occupy parts of Ukraine.
yes I think he does.
Crimea is a russian plantation: stalin deported the Crimean Tatars for collaboration with the Germans

Stalin as a policy also put in Russians in Luhansk and Donetsk and Zelensky's predecessor dawdled as he was pro-Russian....
I hope so. If he gives in at all, this will just happen again and again.
If tthe Russians pass the Vietnam number ( 50 000) then I tink it is possible
Of course he wants Russia to leave his country. Any peace agreement where Russia wins territory will just be storing up trouble for the future. The annexation of Crimea proves that if Russia gains a little, that they will want more.
Ukraine will hope they can hold out like Afghanistan did 40 years ago. Sustained attacks on Russian troops over months and years until they leave.
Putin and Russia must not be rewarded in any way whatsoever for starting this war. Quite the opposite!
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Putin has only a finite amount of conventional weapons & men, all of which have been seriously depleted, (he is now recruiting what has been called a "Dad's Army" of old retired personnel) whereas Ukraine seems potentially capable of of acquiring any amount of both.

The low moral among the Russian forces is inversely proportionate to its high among the Ukrainians added to which is the felt outrage at what has been done to them.

Most observers (i.e. those not actually directly involved) say it has to be a negotiated settlement, but I just wonder.
And if Ukraine does "win" then Russia's hold on Crimea may be challenged.
//Most observers (i.e. those not actually directly involved) say it has to be a negotiated settlement, but I just wonder.//

They can say what they like, they are not signing it or giving anything away.
Dead right ymb.

"Negotiated settlements" are only talked about by mealy-mouthed, no doubt well-intentioned parties who don't understand that this is not a "dispute" but an unprovoked assault by one country on another and as such there can be no "negotiated" solution.
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ichi. You think they'll 'go for broke' then?
I hope Ukraine refuses to concede one single inch. No bargaining!
over 30 countries have provided military aid to Ukraine including

€1bn (£800m) from EU and $1.7bn (£1.3bn) from US

supplies so far limited to arms, ammunition, and defensive equipment like anti-tank and anti-aircraft missile systems

they include Javelins which are shoulder-held anti-tank weapons that shoot heat-seeking rockets

and Stingers which are man-portable anti-aircraft weapons most famously used in Afghanistan against Soviet aircraft

the Starstreak is a UK-made portable air defence system

Nato members fear supplying heavier offensive equipment like tanks and fighter jets could lead to direct open conflict with Russia
That hasn't prevented the Czechs from giving T72 tanks
//I hope Ukraine refuses to concede one single inch. No bargaining!//

And if your menfolk were fighting & dying on the front line & elders sheltering in cellars?
Ukrainians are doing that now, Dave. If they lose this war those people will have suffered and died in vain.
"ichi. You think they'll 'go for broke' then? "
I don't think Ukraine has any choice: as long as Russia occupies even just a part of Ukraine it will seriously weaken the country economically - a so-called "land corridor" to Crimea and even beyond to Odesa, cutting if off from the sea and leaving it vulnerable to Russia's future "final solution". Not to mention the mass murders and deportations that would doubtless continue in the occupied areas.
Ukraine will try to defeat the Russian military but that will not happen unless it gets the right weapons. I despair when I hear commentators, military, etc, that heavier weaponry only risks "escalating the conflict"
By that they mean either that the war will spread or that Russia will use nuclear or biological weapons.
Some call it caution. I'd call it cowardice.
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Putin is putting this thikko general in charge,'The butcher of Syria' he has no military strategy other than bomb & bomb until there is nothing left, so I pray it won't go on for long.

Meanwhile a report in the Telegraph from Russia says the only Russian TV channel is putting out that the Ukrainian 'nazis' themselves slaughtered their own people in Bucha in order to implicate the poor valiant Russian army!!!
Russia is very bad at fake news.
There was an almost unbelievable story last week that the Rossita 24 channel had run a piece of film purporting to show Ukrainians arranging what were obviously dummies to look like dead bodies.
Then it transpired the footaage was from a documentary shot in St Petersburg.
Almost on a par with the story of the man who lost his leg in a Ukrainian missile attack before the invasion - closer inspection of the film showed he had a prosthetic limb which had been removed for the purpose ...
I don't think Zelensky has any option actually. If Russia gains anything at all out of this aggression it will encourage Putin to come back later for another bite. Rather like a vicious dog held at bay by a meaty bone, it will return when hungry.
Crimea was the first 'bone' Russia ate.
Ukrainians are suffering horrible, but they also want Russia gone and so are sticking with the fight.
Azov battalion reports use of chemical weapons in Mariupol. There are a lot of Ukrainian marines in the catacombs beneath the Azovstal factory that was levelled yesterday

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