Republican Protestors Being Arrested

[Untitled]

in edinburgh a woman holding an 'eff imperialism abolish the monarchy' sign has been arrested outside st giles cathedral...

https://metro.co.uk/2022/09/11/woman-arrested-after-holding-abolish-monarchy-sign-in-edinburgh-17351692/

in london a woman outside buckingham palace holding a 'not my king' sign is led away by the police...

https://www.standard.co.uk/video/news/antiroyal-protestor-holding-a-poster-with-the-slogan-not-my-king-b1025012.html

in oxford a 45 year old man was arrested for shouting 'who elected him?' at an event for the new king's proclamation...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/11/republican-protesters-arrested-king-charles-proclamation-events

is this really right? Should everyone be forced to respect the monarchy or shut up if they object to it?

[Old_Geezer]

One can express views at the appropriate place & time. I'd doubt any charge, should one be brought, would concern their anti-royalist stance, but more about nuisance, or disruption, or something similar.

[Untitled]

all protests are a 'nuisance' to someone... i think this is very unhealthy

[fender62]

they should consider she was a mother grandmother and great grandmother, above all a human being who deserves respect.

[calmck]

They might not like the monarchy but is now the time to disrespect the monarchy

[Untitled]

but that's not the reason she's being given a state funeral is it fender... she's getting that because of her institution and position...

not everyone does respect the queen or the monarchy and i don't think it's right to force people because others find it upsetting... republicans are a minority anyway so people would be better off just ignoring them.

[cashier]

They are often removed for their own safety, at times like this.

[Untitled]

hadn't thought of that cashier... how grim.

[maggiebee]

Free speech is the right of everyone, but this is not the time.

[Untitled]

i don't see why not... the monarchy as an institution is in the public eye... the time will only be right when everyone's attention has moved on.

are we really going to force everyone to be mournful about the queen?

[DTCwordfan]

safety - I can remember driving into London the Saturday early evening after 9-11. I was staying o-night before catching a flight back to the States. The A4/Cromwell Road was pretty empty but what did I espy but a Middle Eastern man walking down the pavement dressed in his robes and the tea-towel, the chequered red ghutra....

Given what had just happened, my thought was 'you complete tit, you're asking to be attacked.'

[Old_Geezer]

You may be as mournless as you wish, but should also appreciate the solemnity of the occasion and other folks' need to pay their respects, and be respectful of the common courtesy obligation that morality places upon you in those circumstances.

[jackthehat]

At times like this, feelings can become heightened. Anyone who demonstrates their anti-Monarchist sentiments in full view of others is likely to get a good clattering for their ill- timed pronouncements.

The Scottish chip-shop owner found that out to her cost....

It's a shame that, once again, Police Officers have to waste their time removing and protecting individuals who really should know better.

[Ellipsis]

> in oxford a 45 year old man was arrested for shouting 'who elected him?' at an event for the new king's proclamation...
> https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/11/republican-protesters-arrested-king-charles-proclamation-events

I've got a bit of sympathy for that one. It's a protest against our means of democracy; a proper free speech issue. The other two - no sympathy whatsoever.

[teafortwo]

I hope that chip shop owner loses a lot of custom.

[Untitled]

"be respectful of the common courtesy obligation that morality places upon you in those circumstances."

should the police arrest you for doing something they consider to be discourteous?

[jackthehat]

The chap arrested in Oxford was subsequently de-arrested.

Arresting him for a Section 5 Public order Offence allowed the police to remove him before the crowd meted out their own form of criticism to his comments.

[andy-hughes]

Untitled - The arrest will not be for 'disrespect' which us not definable in law.

It will probably be for behaviour likely to cause a breach of the peace, which is a statutory offence.

[tiggerblue10]

It was neither the time or the place. Everyone is entitled to their views but not at inappropriate times like this. Very disrespectful.

[jno]

they should keep away from funeral events and the like, as a courtesy, but I can't see anything wrong with holding a "not my king" sign outside Parliament.

[JimF]

"Free speech is the right of everyone"

Apart from when it isn't:
https://care.org.uk/cause/religious-liberty/free-speech-law