Anti Vaxers

[Canary42]

Look what you're missing :-D

https://ibb.co/Vpw9CB1 (suitably redacted)

[jno]

do we know yet who's likely to want to see this? Airlines, I suppose, but Tesco? Hairdressers? The pub?

[Redhelen72]

Antivaxers do my nut in

[cashier]

Are they going to send out these certificates to everyone who has had two doses?

[Canary42]

/// Are they going to send out these certificates to everyone who has had two doses? ///

If you apply for one via NHS, then AFAIK yes (not available until two weeks after second jab).

[jno]

I think you have to apply, cashier (subject to correction on that one)

[Mamyalynne]

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/covid-pass/

[Ken4155]

Canary, i'm a tad puzzled. Why didn't you redact the barcode? There are some who can read barcodes.

[Canary42]

Fear not, the barcodes have been altered.

[Bobbisox1]

Those who are anti-vax have as much right to refuse as those that take the vaccine , everyone has a choice

[pixie374]

Yes, everyone should have the choice. I nearly didn't go for my second due to an allergic reaction, and not the GP, the Covid Vaccination Team or the Vaccinator was prepared to risk an answer. In the end, I took a Piriton, rebooted and did it. But- the reaction was worse.
It's also been harmful for some people, potentially. Ore so, than covid- which they might never have got.
Give information and let people decide for themselves.

[anneasquith]

Pixie, you had reactions. How many millions who have been vaccinated have had no reaction ?

[Atheist]

jno 13:40
We are going to France in a week's time and need to present a vax certificate so that the French will let us in. We have also booked Lat Flow Test 2 days prior to the trip (also required by the French), but were very pleased to hear on the radio today that the French have now waived this requirement for those with a double jab.

[pixie374]

No idea, Anne. Some, many, most? The point is, as I said to Bobbin some time ago, who believed vaccinations are 100% safe for 100% people. They aren't, and never were going to be. If something is effective and powerful enough to engage your immune system, it was always going to be a (potentially fatal) risk for some people. So, it has to be a choice.
Ethically, giving a vax to a healthy person and killing them- or someone dying from a pandemic disease, is always going to be a bit of a dilemma.

[Redhelen72]

I want to respond it every time I respond to someone I am reported even if I am polite so it’s not worth rising to the bate

[Prudie]

I am not anti vax in the slightest but when you watch the man I did on BBC 24 yesterday with tears pouring down his face after his young wife died following a reaction to her first vaccine leaving babies motherless I think some sympathy and understanding is called for.

[anneasquith]

I have no real issue with anti- vaxizers, as long as they inform anyone they come in contact with they are not vaccinated .

[pixie374]

There are quite a few, prudie, which was always obvious. I'm a "vaxxer" by nature. But not a bully others...
The other thing to bear in mind, is that those vaccinated, are far more likely to get "asymptomatic covid", and so not realise and pass it on. While this was my reason for getting the second jab in the end- it really is not about "protecting others", which I have seen a bit. It's to protect yourself mostly.

[jourdain2]

After OH's reaction to his double-jab (Dec .20 and Jan.21) which is still around, although now mild in its effects, his G.P. is making noises about not giving him a booster. There is a risk involved in all vaccinations and it must remain personal choice and people who are not vaccinated must not be discriminated against.

[bobbinwales]

Pixie your mistaken so please withdraw your claim that i ever said vaccinations are 100% safe for 100% of people. I've never said anything close to that.

[pixie374]

No bobbin. We had a discussion where you claimed vaccinations were safer than covid. And- that they were safe.