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Spicerack | 09:38 Mon 10th Feb 2020 | News
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I'm no expert but they have massive health/housing shortages yet keep voting for pro-immigration parties.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-51432660
They say they want to replace the Irish with the New Irish and make it illegal to voice concerns about immigration.
Still they vote the party that promises higher benefits/pensions.
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Probably because of realistic expectations in a PR multi-member-constituency voting system. Irish politics is rather strange. You have two main parties which developed out of the Civil War divisions but which these days are largely indistinguishable on a broad range of issues. Confusingly also, each also grew out of the original Sinn Fein party, which...
14:16 Mon 10th Feb 2020
"Still they vote the party that promises higher benefits/pensions."
^^^^ perhaps that's it?
I didnt realise ireland had massive health and housing shortages. Mind you, in all honesty i dot pay much attention to any other european country's elections either
don't know about Irish politics, however to think that Sinn Fein would be a kick in the pants to Leo Varadkar party.
wait till they have to start stumping up for the EUSSR! We may have to build that border after all!
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If Sinn Fein get any power, the anti-English rhetoric will sound like the SNP on crack.
Be embarrassing when they're looking for a bailout. (very soon)
not long to go...
The hope for bad news of the EU springs eternal.
Their country, their choice. If Parties are democratically elected on those manifestos then who are we to say they are wrong?
Can anyone explain why even the two largest parties each fielded fewer than eighty-five candidates for the 159 vacant seats?

With that number, they would always struggle to get the eighty needed for a majority.
Probably because of realistic expectations in a PR multi-member-constituency voting system.
Irish politics is rather strange. You have two main parties which developed out of the Civil War divisions but which these days are largely indistinguishable on a broad range of issues.
Confusingly also, each also grew out of the original Sinn Fein party, which is completely different to the bunch of chancers who have sadly come out on top this weekend.
In my opinion it would be foolish to keep them out of government. They need to be exposed fur what they are by being made accountable and responsible in government
Its the crazy times we live in,spicey.Bojo could be considered an English nationalist,Scotland is controlled by nationalists,the Irish have just voted in a nationalist party,Trump is a nationalist,Putin is a nationalist.Crazy times indeed.
"I'm no expert but they have massive health/housing shortages yet keep voting for pro-immigration parties... They say they want to replace the Irish with the New Irish and make it illegal to voice concerns about immigration. "

Where do 'they say...' this ?

They seem more concerned with keeping their population IN Ireland than seeking immigrants.

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/abroad/generation-emigration/election-2016-where-do-the-main-parties-stand-on-emigration-and-diaspora-issues-1.2539859

https://ec.europa.eu/migrant-integration/news/irish-general-election-2020---what-do-parties-say-about-immigration-and-integration

https://www.rte.ie/news/campaign-daily/2020/0128/1111535-sinn-fein-manifesto/
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Not like you to support pro-EU Socialists, 7up.
To save ABers wasting time, there's no mention of Sinn Fein's views on immigration in any of those^ 3 links. I'm not really sure why 7up bothered finding and posting them. (obviously didn't read them)
Here's a guide to their views. https://www.sinnfein.ie/search/advancedresults?words_include=hate+speech&words=all&sections=all&dates=all

Personally, I wouldn't bother reading it. Take my word, it's a load of lefty botox.
I am not pro-EU and I am not supporting the EU nor EU socialists.
Nice 'putting words in other people's mouth' try.

I did read all the articles I posted to see if any 'pro-immigration' propaganda and found none.
I did read most of the articles on Page 1 of your link, and much as the articles I posted, worries about Irish emigration were mentioned and only 'asylum seekers' given a mention, zero on immigration.
The dead Guinness thanking the muslims in Belfast in 2014 hardly seems 'pro-immigration' to me.
Proof of "They say they want to replace the Irish with the New Irish and make it illegal to voice concerns about immigration" needs evidence to be credible.
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It's credible because I say it. I'm not in the habit of making stuff up.
Can't find it because your friends in Silicon Valley have buried it.
The bit about criticism of immigration being made illegal should have been easy to find. He said it in the Dail.
Any honest person who follows Irish politics (even lefties) will tell you how corrupt they are. (and they always have been)
// It's credible because I say it. //

I should try this line more often!
The housing crisis in Ireland has been well documented and debated for many years. Anyone who missed it is not paying attention. There is a huge deficit in property availability and the numbers who need housing urgently. Prices have rocketed. The government answer?? Bring in a 100s of thousands of immigrants and the rich( you know the ones that work for the EUSSR) buy up and sell on properties that are beyond the reach of the ordinary indigenous citizen. The health care system is similarly on the verge of collapse. The voters have voted in the "political wing" of the IRA, and all that it represents not just the promise of housing. How will they provide these houses ? Will they seize them from the rightful owners, will they intimidate owners into donating them to the cause or something similar? When Sinn Fein are in a position to dominate the Government there, will IRA terrorist acts against Britain be considered as a declaration of war by one state on another entitling Britain to retaliate in kind?

https://www.irishcentral.com/news/irishvoice/house-prices-rent-housing-crisis
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Put on about 10st, jim, and develop a scary visage. Everyone will agree with you about everything (in the real world)
'Won't be long before the balaclava slips' togo. ;-)
"It's credible because I say it."

"The government answer?? Bring in a 100s of thousands of immigrants and the rich..."

blah, blah, empty tall, blah
Charming as well eh?
Irish politics is something of a mess - a party with origins in terrorism on the rise. I dont think any party contested every seat and proprep almost guarantees a coalition and they work so well - not. That added to an overinflated view of their world importance doesnt bode well.

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