Barbaric?

[jordyboy14]

In my youth the Birch was used if I remember in the Isle of MAN,sadly in my opinion Its no longer used in the early 60s or earlier It was deemed to be BARBARIC,now I don't say bring back hanging but I think some sort of punishment like the Birch for knife crime and cruelty to animals and children,surely we can't go on as we are without doing something

[emmie]

that is why they go to prison generally, not sure i want to bring back the birch to be honest. I would like to see sentences fit the crime, and that life in prison for paedophiles like the recent cases of Barry Bennell.

[andy-hughes]

I don't believe that physical cruelty as a punishment for physical cruelty has any place in a civilised society.

[goodgoalie]

Andy - not sure if you saw this :)
https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/ChatterBank/Question1594485.html

[jordyboy14]

A nice quote Andy but do we have a civilized society?child abuse,animals and children illtreated,I don't think it's a civilized society

[emmie]

i think the majority of citizens are law abiding, there seems to be a persistent few who commit crimes, and those should be weeded out, and where appropriate sent to prison.

[jordyboy14]

Thanks for butting in goodgoalie, very bad manners

[jordyboy14]

Emmie I think more much more than persistent few

[jennyjoan]

Emmie - these so scum are too good for prison and many of them when at court - come out with a slap of the wrist.

There is no more room at the jails.

[Peter Pedant]

why stop at the Birch, I say
the Viets used to torment the Americans and dissident viets and anyuone they didnt like
bamboo splints under the nails - -
blimey those GIs used to whoop !

[woofgang]

so violence to deal with violence.....like that ever works!

[hc4361]

The threat of the birch did not deter crime and many repeat offenders were repeatedly birched.

It is inhumane to ask an adult to flog a juvenile or adult in cold blood - I would wonder at the mentality of a person applying for the job. Of course police officers used to birch offenders but I wouldn't want them doing that today.

[dannyk13]

Whilst on the beat I met a man who had actually received punishment in the form of being whipped by the cat-o-nine tails.I asked him what he felt about it.His reply was that every time he thought about committing a crime he felt pain in his back.He never re-offended, so in his case physical punishment did work.

[Khandro]

woofgang; //so violence to deal with violence.....like that ever works!//

The sad truth is that violence can only be stopped by superior violence - two world wars, ISIS etc.
The passivity of Gandhi and the Dalai Lama, nice in theory, but didn't work.

[emmie]

khandro
with Gandhi it did work, after a fashion, non violent protest, then of course his life was ended by an act of violence.

[naomi24]

I think it works - but purposefully inflicting physical pain on anyone or anything is a horrible thought.

[Khandro]

emmie & naomi; I reluctantly have to concur with the sentiments expressed here;
https://www.quora.com/Would-Gandhis-philosophy-of-non-violence-work-in-todays-world

[Hazi-Hammenuhoth]

Maybe we can look forward to this type of treatment being doled out when Sharia Law takes over in the UK?

[erik2]

woofgang "
so violence to deal with violence.....like that ever works!"
well prison doesn't work for 90%

[erik2]

in my opinon the threat of prion is no deterrent to some but the threat of a good birching would be !

[Islay]

child abuse, animal abuse etc etc etc - all went on when the birch was about and when hanging was used - did it make any difference no!!