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claymore | 11:35 Mon 28th Jan 2008 | News
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Heard on the news [here down under] that Britons are leaving dear old England in record numbers,what`s up?
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Weak, untrustworthy government
degeneration of law + order
Chav culture
erosion of civil liberties
better standard of living abroad
crappy weather in the UK



Any or all of the above.
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4GS when are you heading off ....and where to?
I'm staying put!! only the weather would drive me out of the UK lol

That said, I was given the opportunity to join the New Zealand Army last year (I've got 21 years experience in the British Army and have friends serving with the Kiwi's) but we decided not to.
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Well good luck 4GS, like they say....Home is where the heart is
they probably loathe immigrants so much they want to be immigrants themselves. Throw rocks at them when they arrive, claymore, to point out their logical flaws.
Top 5 things that would keep me in England
1. Family
2. Friends
3. Chelsea FC
4. British pubs
5. British humour


Top 5 things that could convince me I would be better off abroad
1. Er..........the weather???
2. Er.........well, thats it really
3. No, really. Thats it
4. The weather
5. No,seriously. Only the weather.

For all your faults, England. I still love you.

PS. I have been down under (and love Sydney, adore Cairns and have also had a good time in Brisbane), but would never dream of wanting to live there!!
Things that are slowly driving me out of my own country: -

Asylum Seekers
Stupid PC Culture we have here now
Gangs
Minorities becomming majorities
Nurses are leaving the UK in their thousands for better salaries in Australia. Our weak borders have allowed illegal immigrants into the UK by the millions not like the strict laws allowed in your country. Politicians are too self serving to worry about how others in the population live.
Where to start...
OK, England the country, fine. Beautiful landscapes and countryside. Weather, not a
problem.
England the society. Ah. Cr4p. Ditto all 4GS said.
Taxed to the b0llocks whilst layabouts sit round doing f*** all and taking home more than you.
Council tax going up and up and up and less and less service in return for it.
Rip off everything. Water, gas electric, transport companies all private and stick their prices up whenever they feel like it.
24 hour drinking, a mistake lets admit it and go back to a sensible system. Town centres still full of drunk noisy aggresive w4nkers, but now at all hours and not just chuck out.
Cr4p politicians and no apparent choice or way of getting a decent lot in.
Fuel duty going up twice a year, year in year out thanks to the govt.
Crap unnecessary work carried out by councils to ensure they spend enough so that can put the tax up next year. They should be trying to save us money! We dont want speed bumps on every b4stard road, or traffic light controlled roundabouts everywhere.
Im starting to boil now so Id better go off for a lie down.
my friends live in the canaries, have done for last 2 years , they can live comfortable on �400per month (including food),seriously thinking about it, only thing id miss, family and friends. fed up of paying for the bone idle, illegals, benefit cheats, etc, working people of uk fast becoming 3rd rate citizens,
The only bad thing about Britain is that it seems to be largely populated by whingers. (see above) ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

When you meet fellow British people on holiday abroad, their incessant moaning is just depressing.

Lighten up people, enjoy your life.
i have to agree with everything Avatar said.

Why should we stop moaning when this country accepts freeloading asylum seekers, who get more benefits than us hard working tax paying folk.

Ok, I will just sit here while my country is raped by these scroungers...i dont think so!
Thanks AVATAR.

You saved me a lot of typing!!!!
So...

Immigration, self serving politicians, fuel rises, local councils and the work shy are only problems which occur in Britain are they?

Do they not have the same problems in Australia? France? America? Everywhere?

Yet we are world champions at whinging about it.
It's great! When people emmigrate to Australia the average IQ of both countries goes up!


Win Win situation
After ten years of a Labour Government I'm surprised there's anybody left who wants to stay here. To list a few reasons:

Devolution and the parliamentary break-up of the UK,
Increased crime
Immigration which is swamping the native population,
Overwhleming bureaucracy,
Politcal correctness gone mad.
Stupid Health & Safety regulations,
Lying and cheating politicians who lost our respect
Unbearable taxation levels
Government departments "Not fit for Purpose"
Tony Blair
Gordon Brown

I could go on but my blood pressure is rising already....
Well, after that lot i dont really think i can add anything much, totally in agreement with you all,One of my pet hates are i totally untrustworthy politicians ( want to award themselves pay rise 4 x rate of everyone else ), Ridiculous Pc culture, 'elf and safety', rules designed by morons and jobsworths.I was recently out of work for 2 weeks for first time in my life , im 56 , couldnt get a bloody penny in help, all that tax and Ni ive paid. Yet if was a newcomer to this country, i would get everything i wanted , i dont recognise this country anymore, what ever happened to looking after your own.If i was younger i would be off. We too have friends in Gran Canaria, who live well on a lower income than i have and get lovely weather all year round, and life is a lot more laid back there.
Another thing is dont let anyone tell you the class system is dead, its alive and well and priveledge is still around Our Royal scroungers are a case in point, dont want to hear the usual b******s about what they do for tourism. Gromit , please dont deny the right of people to moan, they have every right
Gromit
People, like you who have the "Just accept it" attitude are one of many resons why this country rapidly going down the pan. If WE, as a nation, all rose up against these social & economic ills, the so called spineless politicians may take notice.
Till then we are all b011oxed
fletcher.5

If WE, as a nation, all rose up against these social & economic ills, the so called spineless politicians may take notice."

The problem is, that you don't. You just whinge instead of doing anything about it because you are lazy and like moaning. And it is people like you who want to emigrate who are the quitters.
no, no, let them go, gromit, there are valleys in the Karakorams desperately in need of people trained in the arts of complaint, and it would be wrong to deprive them of skilled British immigrants.

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