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Who says we have nothing to worry about, as regards the number of immigrants coming into this country?
Who says we have nothing to worry about, as regards the number of immigrants coming into this country?
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This country when it comes to immigration is too soft. Before this recent scare people were classed as racists when trying to stop people of different religions or skin colour entering the country. But behind it all are the numbers because Poles do not fit this category and would be easily assimilated if this was the case. The real problem is land area and being one of the most highly packed density populations in the world the message is coming home to roost.
It gets worse - Albania are due to join the EU at some point.
This ability to move anywhere in the EU to work is an absolute joke (without being funny).
It is obvious people form the "poor" countries are going to leave and come to the "rich" countries.
But because it is the EU we have no way of stopping them.
How I would LOVE for us to get out the EU now.
I did not vote for having millions of Poles here when I voted Yes back in the time of Edward Heath. I wish we knew then what we know now.
This ability to move anywhere in the EU to work is an absolute joke (without being funny).
It is obvious people form the "poor" countries are going to leave and come to the "rich" countries.
But because it is the EU we have no way of stopping them.
How I would LOVE for us to get out the EU now.
I did not vote for having millions of Poles here when I voted Yes back in the time of Edward Heath. I wish we knew then what we know now.
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As things are at the moment you have no more right to demand that Poles (or any other �citizens� of countries belonging to the EU) are prevented from moving from Poland to England than you have to demand that people from Newcastle do not settle in Gloucestershire.
Britain was alone in allowing immediate unfettered access to this country from the new member states of 2004. Other EU countries delayed the inevitable � but only until 2009. (This is a favourite ploy of the EU administration. Allow a �concession� for a few years to sweeten the bitter pill).
The architects of the European project have almost achieved their goal � that of creating single state out of the 27 (and almost certain to rise) sovereign states that goes to make up the EU. That goal will be all but achieved when the EU �Reform Treaty� (otherwise known as the Constitution) is ratified. They will have thus achieved by stealth what countless wars and conflicts failed to do � see an end to the UK as an independent state responsible for its own affairs. (In truth this has been the case in many aspects of our lives for some time now. The "Treaty" is just the final "tidying up").
As things are at the moment you have no more right to demand that Poles (or any other �citizens� of countries belonging to the EU) are prevented from moving from Poland to England than you have to demand that people from Newcastle do not settle in Gloucestershire.
Britain was alone in allowing immediate unfettered access to this country from the new member states of 2004. Other EU countries delayed the inevitable � but only until 2009. (This is a favourite ploy of the EU administration. Allow a �concession� for a few years to sweeten the bitter pill).
The architects of the European project have almost achieved their goal � that of creating single state out of the 27 (and almost certain to rise) sovereign states that goes to make up the EU. That goal will be all but achieved when the EU �Reform Treaty� (otherwise known as the Constitution) is ratified. They will have thus achieved by stealth what countless wars and conflicts failed to do � see an end to the UK as an independent state responsible for its own affairs. (In truth this has been the case in many aspects of our lives for some time now. The "Treaty" is just the final "tidying up").
(Part 2)
It�s no use worrying or moaning about it. It�s done. We were initially hoodwinked into believing we were simply joining a trading organisation but more recently have been browbeaten into believing there was no alternative to ever closer integration. In truth there WAS no credible alternative for us at the polls � a situation created and perpetuated by the two-party state in which we live.
I don�t know the answer. If the polls are to be believed it seems a large majority of the population at least wants a vote on further integration. The government talks of �losing� such a referendum whereas I (naively) thought the idea of the exercise was to establish what people wanted and to do it. But we have seen what happens when voters say �no�. They are simply ignored and the project moves on.
Of course workers (and indeed non-workers!) from the poorer countries of Europe love the idea and we must not blame the Poles for taking the opportunities presented to them. Some people in the UK may like the notion of being able to earn ten times their current salary (whilst undercutting the local workforce), incur minimal living expenses and send the rest home. This, we are told, is of great benefit to the UK economy.
Next in line for the gravy train are Croatia and Turkey, then possibly Macedonia. Then what? Iran? Iraq? Syria? Israel? Morocco? Who knows! I�m only glad that I won�t be around when, inevitably, it all ends in tears. All �empires� that were created by the forced amalgamation of independent states have eventually broken up � usually violently.
But then we�re much too clever to allow that to happen, aren�t we?
It�s no use worrying or moaning about it. It�s done. We were initially hoodwinked into believing we were simply joining a trading organisation but more recently have been browbeaten into believing there was no alternative to ever closer integration. In truth there WAS no credible alternative for us at the polls � a situation created and perpetuated by the two-party state in which we live.
I don�t know the answer. If the polls are to be believed it seems a large majority of the population at least wants a vote on further integration. The government talks of �losing� such a referendum whereas I (naively) thought the idea of the exercise was to establish what people wanted and to do it. But we have seen what happens when voters say �no�. They are simply ignored and the project moves on.
Of course workers (and indeed non-workers!) from the poorer countries of Europe love the idea and we must not blame the Poles for taking the opportunities presented to them. Some people in the UK may like the notion of being able to earn ten times their current salary (whilst undercutting the local workforce), incur minimal living expenses and send the rest home. This, we are told, is of great benefit to the UK economy.
Next in line for the gravy train are Croatia and Turkey, then possibly Macedonia. Then what? Iran? Iraq? Syria? Israel? Morocco? Who knows! I�m only glad that I won�t be around when, inevitably, it all ends in tears. All �empires� that were created by the forced amalgamation of independent states have eventually broken up � usually violently.
But then we�re much too clever to allow that to happen, aren�t we?
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