Muslim Police Officer

[anotheoldgit]

Should the Muslim police officers be allowed to pick what duties he carries out?

I refer to the Muslim police officer who ask to be removed from policing the Israeli Embassy.

[mightyWBA]

Lets just hope nobody calls him a pig.
:-)

[Carakeel]

So all the Christian and other non-Muslim policemen DON'T take their lives in their hands and endanger their families when they have to police the MUSLIM areas???
Or is this Muslim police officer perhaps saying that if he is called upon to guard the Israeli Embassy, his own fellow Muslims will harm his family?

What a police officer has to do and where he has to do it should have nothing to do with his or her religion! Everyone joining the police forces knows what duties this entails, so should not be allowed to pick duties depending on whether or not they suit their religion. But then again the politically correct civil liberties people will probably not agree with me.

[dyli795]

No, I heared on the radio today someone trying to excuse him saying ; what if he was asked to guard someone who had killed his family for instance? Well I'm not a copper myself , but even in that case I would expect him as a member of the best police force in the world to do his duties as ordered of him. It just proves he is not of the stuff required of a policeman in the employ of Her Majesty. Hey, if he can't do it , give me a go! I got made redundant four weeks ago, i'm chomping at the bit!

[sp1814]

I'd venture that there isn't a single AB contributer who can remember a time of peace and social cohesion.

40s - big old war
50s - austerity/post war gloom
60s - cold war
70s - IRA bombings
80s - race riots/poll tax riots
90s - first middle eastern conflict

The last sixty odd years haven't exactly been a laugh riot.

[matty2670]

I am a police officer whose father was a Greek Cypriot. If one of our local Turkish kebab shops is ever attacked, perhaps I'll refuse to attend and see what happens! Seriously, my colleagues and I were discussing this today, and we were disgusted. If you're given a lawful order, you carry it out, however distasteful it might be. That's the nature of the beast - when I joined up, the police force (not service) used to be a disciplined, professional organisation. Some of the things we're expected to put up with from the Govt. and our chief officers makes me sick, and I'm sad to say my retirement can't come soon enough. I used to be proud to tell people what I did for a living, now I keep it a secret because I'm too ashamed sometimes. I have no problem with anyone criticising the police - Lord knows we deserve it sometimes. But can I just say for the record that most of the rank and file colleagues I've worked with over the years are decent, hard working people who genuinely want to serve the public they swore to protect. But folks, I tell ya, it's an uphill struggle...

[dyli795]

next !

[dyli795]

We've got all these people coming out of the woodwork now saying things like; Wait a minute, would you put a black officer guarding some BNP activity for instance? We don't need any for instances or ah buts , we are not going to accept a redefinition of our police force, we don't need it , never did and never will, it's in the Oxford Dictionary if anyone needs clarification. I don't know how things are handled in some, shall we say, darker parts of this Gods earth , but we don't have it here thankyou. "We have already got one"

[Dassie]

sp 1814. So did you live through the 50's and 60's in Britain to warrant your comment? Although the World wasn't and never has been without problems, the only time I was concerned living inside Britain was at the time of the Cuban missile crisis. Britain was basically peaceful and had nowhere near the level of social and PC problems of today.

[yassa]

I am with Jake the peg,,, who in their right mind would give him that duty... It should have never happened in the first place.

[sp1814]

I wasn't around in the 50s or 60s, but then again, I wasn't around during the first world war, but I know it wasn't exactly a walk in the park.

PC problems of today?

I welcome these problems if it means we never have to go back to what it was like in the 70s.

If you were in a wheelchair, a women, black or gay, please go to the back ot the queue and stay there.

[curiosity]

Well, I think this issue should have remained one between the Police Officer and his line manager, and not have been disclosed. This person was not refusing to do his job, he was merely using policies similar to what nurses have access to which are designed to improve working lives, and ultimately recruitment and retention issues. If there was someone else less effected by the nature of the task then they should be assigned to the job. It's basic resource management, nothing more. I imagine this has been discussed by the police officer in a "confidential" Human resources way and should have been private to his personnel file, his manager and his colleagues if he wished to share it.

[sp1814]

Has anyone read how this story came to be in the public domain?

[Dassie]

That's why I never mentioned the War or the 70's. Because of the war the 50's and into the 60's people were friendly, polite, had manners and then it all went out of the window to be replaced by the type of things we are discussing on AB nowadays. Political correctness has gone overboard to the extent that we now almost have REVERSE discrimination.

[sp1814]

Dassie

What do you think the answer is?

If you're white (I don't know whether you are), how has your life been affected by anti-white racism?

Specifically, I'm talking about your education, career, housing, and perhaps day-to-day living.

For instance, has your church been firebombed like that place in Windsor?

Has any member of your family been axed in the head for being white (like Anthony Walker),

Do you know anyone who's been kicked to death after a night out, like Jody Dobrowski?

I'm always astonished when people who have all the advantages of not being in a minority complain about PC. All I can say is bring it on...it makes us all better people.

[Pajama Girl]

Well, with the logic of those who support the police officer's "right" to pick and choose his assignments,

would you then call parents RACIST if they refused to have their child treated by a Muslim for fear that the Muslim physician would not really help their child?

Of course you would call those parents racist. So call the police officer racist. Or more accurately, anti-Semitic.

If the police officer felt he could not protect the Israeli embassy, I would not trust him to protect me and my family. I don't happen to be Jewish, but he might mistake me for a Jew and treat me according to his own personal standards. He is untrustworthy as a police officer.

He should resign.

[Pajama Girl]

Oh, and the Associated Press says that he refuses to guard the Israeli embassy because of his own "moral reasons" not because he would put his family in peril.

http://www.townhall.com/News/NewsArticle.aspx? ContentGuid=74ddadb2-bd1f-4fe0-b0fd-6f30b0a7bb 39

[Dassie]

sp1814. Since you ask, perhaps you have not come across basic job discrimination? I have in the past where the company "needs to have better representation of minority groups" Seeing as we're talking about the Police Force, there's a prime example of an organisation who openly strive to have better representation of minority ethnic groups ( read reverse discrimination ). Why should that matter ? If people come to live in this Country or in any Country for that matter they should accept it "as is" . I think the saying is "When in Rome......................"

[ChampagneMan]

You know what i say? I say that Her Majesty should sack the dirty basta*d!!! Dismiss him outright. Set a firm precedent. Lord alone knows what demands these swine will come up with next! Its sickening, I tell you. Sack him and deport the lil sh*t and his ugly family back to wherever the Fu*k he came from in the first place. This country has no place whatsoever for this apology of a human being!!

[Pippa68]

It's a shame when a generally good natured debate sinks this low isn't it?

[admarlow]

I think this police officer should be sacked straight away, He not only has refused to follow orders but he has also proved himself a racist, as as someone else said arn't the police ment to be ''colourblind''. Ok everyone who thinks this is ok, does that mean that other police can refuse to stand outside Finsbury park mosque in the rain and protect som iram preaching hate against the west?, or is it one rule for one thing, one rule for another?