Velazquez Painting Attacked With Hammers

[Khandro]

....by two little cretins, beggars belief!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/06/just-stop-oil-protest-national-gallery-painting/

[ichkeria]

"if only we could get the MSM to ignore & not report on these stupid acts, - fat chance!"

The so-called "MSM" is irrevevant in such cases. It gets filmed on someone's phone and it's all over social media 

[Untitled]

"If they'd just done their speech they'd have made a point whether  you agree with it or not."

it would have been ignored. unfortunately people don't take much notice of speeches and placards anymore

[Ellipsis]

> if only we could get the MSM to ignore & not report on these stupid acts, - fat chance!

Irony klaxon - I first heard about this on this thread ...

[naomi24]

Untitled, these morons are alienating people.  That doesn't help their cause.

[brainiac]

Trouble is, they get publicity for their 'cause' - they are on the front page of today's Times

[Untitled]

well people ignore conventional protest and don't ignore this. unfortunately most people simply don't want to hear about climate change - but they have to. 

[Untitled]

their goal is not to "win people over" anyway, their goal is to mobilize people who agree with them but don't currently do anything

[naomi24]

brainiac, they are in the news but not in a good way.   Even their main sponsor has given up on them.

[Untitled]

if you can get around 3.5% of the population to actively do something then you can effect change 

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190513-it-only-takes-35-of-people-to-change-the-world

that's their goal. they want to reach the minority of people who might actually do something.

[naomi24]

Well I hope they hurry up and meet their goal.  They'd be more influential rallying people to clean up our oceans and beaches and countryside.  They'd get a lot of support for that but instead they're just vandalising, creating disruption to other people's lives and making a complete nuisance of themselves.  No one with any sense thinks that's a good idea.  

[Untitled]

"They'd be more influential rallying people to clean up our oceans and beaches and countryside"

why don't you do it then naomi? the issue of pollution is certainly important and i would definitely like to see more activism over that issue. but the issue of fossil fuels is extremely serious and cannot be ignored and that is JSO's chosen cause. 

[naomi24]

Why don't I do what?

[Untitled]

rally people to clean up our oceans and beaches and countryside

[naomi24]

I do my bit.

[ichkeria]

"it would have been ignored. unfortunately people don't take much notice of speeches and placards anymore"

Possibly but I hope you aren't suggesting that it was right to commit a violent act just to get noticed.

[Untitled]

The suffragettes did it in order to get naomi and all women of the world the right to vote. a noble and just cause which was frequently villified at the time. and the suffragettes went much further than JSO.

[Khandro]

Untitled; 10:48. That's a very stupid article you have posted.

 

[Khandro]

Untitled; You are putting up some very silly posts. Do you think if the suffragettes hadn't chained themselves to railings & smashed windows women would still not have the vote ?

[Untitled]

I don't know khandro. but i struggle to condemn them for doing the things you mention. they made very clear that women would simply not tolerate disenfranchisement. 

[Untitled]

"That's a very stupid article you have posted."

meaning of course nothing more than you disagree with it