Pfizer Booster Shots - Very Effective Indeed

[sunny-dave]

Now this is very good news :

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/booster-covid-jab-offers-near-total-protection-pfizer-study-shows-8v566tjpx?utm_source=newsletter&utm_campaign=newsletter_144&;utm_medium=email&;utm_content=144_15852762&CMP=TNLEmail_6518692_15852762_144

Link to Pfizer press release in case The Times paywall keeps you out :

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-announce-phase-3-trial-data-showing

[jno]

hmm, just seen the word "symptomatic" infection, so perhaps that means you still get Covid but are even less likely to have symptoms (or perhaps just serious symptoms).

[sunny-dave]

I think there has always been an element of 'protection against infection', jno - but it has very much waned as the months have gone past - whereas the 'protection against severe symptoms' seems to have remained high.

The booster restores both protections to (at least) the levels achieved just after the second dose.

[jno]

I've had my booster, and it was a Pfizer one (the original two were AZ), so it's good news whatever. Presumably in six months they start thinking about another one.

[pat2604]

We had our boosters at our medical centre last week, by invitation from them. Since the I have received a text and email from the NHS to get the booster through the system. Good news indeed Dave. Thanks for posting.

[pat2604]

Our first two jabs were astra jno, and we had Pfizer boosters.

[jno]

looks as though they go together like gin and tonic, Pat

[diddlydo]

From what I've read all the boosters are Pfizer irrespective of what you had first time round.

[jno]

I think there are some Modernas around, diddlydo, but I don't know anybody who's had one.

[fender62]

does this mean we will be having jabs every six months, is this the future, if it is i do not like it.. i don't go clubbing and i certainly do not shop, no disrespect ladies.. im in and out.

[diddlydo]

Lest we forget - this time last year we were all being told to hang on in there as the salvation i.e. jabs was just round the corner. So now that a huge percentage of the population is jabbed, one year on we're in a worse position than this time last year. What has gone wrong???

[diddlydo]

Lest we forget - this time last year we were all being told to hang on in there as the salvation i.e. jabs was just round the corner. So now that a huge percentage of the population is jabbed, one year on we're in a worse position than this time last year. What has gone wrong???

[jno]

Delta?

[Peter Pedant]

// Wish theyd explain why or whether we really need to wait 6 months after the second jab.//

you wade froo all the lit and find:
a.Best response is after 6 mo
b. despite crap on this very site about reinfection or break thro infection the vaccine really is very efficient - In a prison with 2000 vaccination there were 19 break thro infections and no hospital admissions (NEJM)
c. Because of the side effects of Oxford they mixed and didnt match and found protection was even higher ( near 100%)


anythhing else I can help with ?

[Peter Pedant]

// one year on we're in a worse position than this time last year. What has gone wrong???//

something has gone wrong with you

if you look at the graphs - the infections are near where they were
BUT or AND
a.a lot are under 15
b.The pool of infection seems to be 15-20
c.over 50s, the vacc rate is near 100% ( not so high that if you miss the vacca invite you have probably died from something else)
d. the people getting into hospital are still unvaccinated
e. and so therefore see above, they have to be much younger

they are also reluctantly moving towards the disease is probably always gonna mutate and generate sufficient escape variants that - - - we will be stuck with it ( like 'flu) and not able to abolish it ( like small pox)

and vaccine refusal is likely to become a serious problem like measles

[youngmafbog]

So this report is on the first of those who had two Pfizer injections first, nothing about if you had a totally different treatment the first time.

Personally, having had 2 AZ last time I will not be having Pfizer pumped into me on top until I have seen some full trial results on a fair number of people.

I'd be quite happy to have another AZ, but the cheap one isnt on offer. I wonder who in SAGE/The Government has shares in Modena/Pfizer?

[youngmafbog]

//Our first two jabs were astra jno, and we had Pfizer boosters.//

Wasnt a booster then was it. It's a totally different way of dealing with it.

[jno]

still supposed to boost your immunity, ymb, hence the name. It seems this is regarded as the whole point: to mix and match to obtain better coverage

https://inews.co.uk/news/health/astrazeneca-vaccine-not-offered-booster-jab-rollout-1199287

"There is understood to be more available scientific evidence about the long-term efficacy of mRNA jabs over other vaccines."

[bobbinwales]

So are you a doctor and epidemiology expert youngmafbog MB ChB? The JVCI may welcome your input.

// I wonder who in SAGE/The Government has shares in Modena/Pfizer?//
Err, no. THE JVCI is independent and does have some experience in these matters.


Thanks PP, so 6 months is best for an individual, but maybe taking a wider view we could buy a bit of time now by bringing forward from 6 months to 5 months for over 50/60s?

[jno]

bobb, I suppose the thinking is that the more time and personpower you devote to the ovr 60s (etc) the less you have to give second jabs or even first ones for younger people.