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Trial Of 96 Year Old Former Nazi Secretary
A former secretary at a Nazi concentration camp has been captured after trying to flee before her trial in northern Germany. Irmgard Furchner, 96, charged with complicity in 11,000 murders, fled her care home and failed to turn up at court. She has since been discovered and arrested and is awaiting trial.
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The question is should she stand trial after all these years and at her advanced age - or is it too late?
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The question is should she stand trial after all these years and at her advanced age - or is it too late?
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pixie - // It shouldn't be about other people's feelings. Or, deterring others. It should be about her. //
I disagfree - it should not be about 'her', it should be about the law, and its exercise.
If a charge is brought, and a trial is decided, then the law should follow due process.
That follows in absolutely every situation - the circumstances and the age of the defendent are not an issue, and should not be considered.
The legal process is what matters - the rest follows behind.
I disagfree - it should not be about 'her', it should be about the law, and its exercise.
If a charge is brought, and a trial is decided, then the law should follow due process.
That follows in absolutely every situation - the circumstances and the age of the defendent are not an issue, and should not be considered.
The legal process is what matters - the rest follows behind.
"That follows in absolutely every situation" - I'm not so sure that is true?
I'm of the belief that the crucial thing in 'delayed justice' is proportionality.
If minor peccadillos from the past are raked up 50 or 60 years later then that would seem to be an abuse of process - I doubt the greengrocer from whose stall an apple was scrumped in 1961 would want anyone's name besmirched, I doubt it would serve any useful purpose if some casual studenty spliffery form 1972 was exhumed to embarrass a pillar of the Golden Years Bingo Society.
But some crimes are so serious/abhorrent that time cannot (and should not) provide a get-out-of-jail-free card to the perpetrators - and the age of the people involved should not impeded justice being seen to be done (and nor should the all-too-convenient arrival of Dr Alzheimer either).
I'm of the belief that the crucial thing in 'delayed justice' is proportionality.
If minor peccadillos from the past are raked up 50 or 60 years later then that would seem to be an abuse of process - I doubt the greengrocer from whose stall an apple was scrumped in 1961 would want anyone's name besmirched, I doubt it would serve any useful purpose if some casual studenty spliffery form 1972 was exhumed to embarrass a pillar of the Golden Years Bingo Society.
But some crimes are so serious/abhorrent that time cannot (and should not) provide a get-out-of-jail-free card to the perpetrators - and the age of the people involved should not impeded justice being seen to be done (and nor should the all-too-convenient arrival of Dr Alzheimer either).
sunny-dave - // "That follows in absolutely every situation" - I'm not so sure that is true?
I'm of the belief that the crucial thing in 'delayed justice' is proportionality.
If minor peccadillos from the past are raked up 50 or 60 years later then that would seem to be an abuse of process - I doubt the greengrocer from whose stall an apple was scrumped in 1961 would want anyone's name besmirched, I doubt it would serve any useful purpose if some casual studenty spliffery form 1972 was exhumed to embarrass a pillar of the Golden Years Bingo Society.
But some crimes are so serious/abhorrent that time cannot (and should not) provide a get-out-of-jail-free card to the perpetrators - and the age of the people involved should not impeded justice being seen to be done (and nor should the all-too-convenient arrival of Dr Alzheimer either). //
Dave you make an excellent point.
I am happy to amend my position to include a vital element of proportionality.
I'm of the belief that the crucial thing in 'delayed justice' is proportionality.
If minor peccadillos from the past are raked up 50 or 60 years later then that would seem to be an abuse of process - I doubt the greengrocer from whose stall an apple was scrumped in 1961 would want anyone's name besmirched, I doubt it would serve any useful purpose if some casual studenty spliffery form 1972 was exhumed to embarrass a pillar of the Golden Years Bingo Society.
But some crimes are so serious/abhorrent that time cannot (and should not) provide a get-out-of-jail-free card to the perpetrators - and the age of the people involved should not impeded justice being seen to be done (and nor should the all-too-convenient arrival of Dr Alzheimer either). //
Dave you make an excellent point.
I am happy to amend my position to include a vital element of proportionality.
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