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I Don't Think She's Got The Hang Of This Non Binary Personal Pronoun Cobras!
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"Today is a day I'm so happy to share more of my life with you all," -
err: "Today is a day We are so happy to share more of our lives with you all," ??
"I'm doing this for those out there that haven't been able to share who they truly are with their loved ones," -
err: "We're doing this for those out there that haven't been able to share who they truly are with their loved ones," ??
If you are going to do this bow locks then at least learn the correct terms!
"Today is a day I'm so happy to share more of my life with you all," -
err: "Today is a day We are so happy to share more of our lives with you all," ??
"I'm doing this for those out there that haven't been able to share who they truly are with their loved ones," -
err: "We're doing this for those out there that haven't been able to share who they truly are with their loved ones," ??
If you are going to do this bow locks then at least learn the correct terms!
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14:10 Wed 19th May 2021
This thread is principally about the pronouns being used (and which they expect others to understand and use) by people who are non-binary. The suggestion that plural pronouns should be used to refer to a single identifiable person is quite simply absurd. The subject of the report illustrates this absurdity quite well:
“Using they/them as pronouns ‘best represents the fluidity I feel in my gender expression’ “
It does no such thing. It sows confusion and illustrates the absurdity of the concept. For example:
“They said they will speak to other non-binary people in a video series about gender identity.”
Who are “they”?
//One of the problems here is a misunderstanding between sex and gender. Sex is biological where as gender is a social construct. Please bear this in mind whilst discussing the OP.//
That isn’t really the problem. Everybody knows that there seems to have been an exponential explosion in the numbers of people who have declared that their gender does not match their biological sex. I don’t know why this is, but fashions come and fashions go. The problem is that there are no suitable non-gender specific third person pronouns for them to use. So they have taken to using plurals which, whilst they may be suitable (though strictly speaking, grammatically incorrect) in one or two circumstances where the identity of the person is unknown, they are not suitable in most circumstances as the one or two examples within the report demonstrates.
If non-binary people want non-binary pronouns used when they are referring to themselves or being referred to, they need to devise some which everybody else knows about. I would say that “it” is perfectly appropriate because it would not need to consider which of the “many hundreds” of genders which some claim there are. But they may not, so they need to come up with some ideas.
“Using they/them as pronouns ‘best represents the fluidity I feel in my gender expression’ “
It does no such thing. It sows confusion and illustrates the absurdity of the concept. For example:
“They said they will speak to other non-binary people in a video series about gender identity.”
Who are “they”?
//One of the problems here is a misunderstanding between sex and gender. Sex is biological where as gender is a social construct. Please bear this in mind whilst discussing the OP.//
That isn’t really the problem. Everybody knows that there seems to have been an exponential explosion in the numbers of people who have declared that their gender does not match their biological sex. I don’t know why this is, but fashions come and fashions go. The problem is that there are no suitable non-gender specific third person pronouns for them to use. So they have taken to using plurals which, whilst they may be suitable (though strictly speaking, grammatically incorrect) in one or two circumstances where the identity of the person is unknown, they are not suitable in most circumstances as the one or two examples within the report demonstrates.
If non-binary people want non-binary pronouns used when they are referring to themselves or being referred to, they need to devise some which everybody else knows about. I would say that “it” is perfectly appropriate because it would not need to consider which of the “many hundreds” of genders which some claim there are. But they may not, so they need to come up with some ideas.
Untitled, facts and accuracy are never rude or spiteful. It isn't my fault, I'm not god. "Forced" maybe not, depending which posts get removed. But I have certainly seen pressure and insults on here towards people calling a male "he". Ironically, there seems to be a recent rule here, about Covid and about the Science section, that anything misleading will be removed. But, with this subject, it's actually a request.
I agree.... I'm just trying to work out what "should" happen, in the millions of casual interactions, which happen to everyone on a daily basis.
So far, we use sex, as it is obvious on sight, and nobody is offended. As it just is. But- if we change it to gender, in future, then nobody knows or can tell or guess. So everyone is offended. How is this going to work in actual reality?
So far, we use sex, as it is obvious on sight, and nobody is offended. As it just is. But- if we change it to gender, in future, then nobody knows or can tell or guess. So everyone is offended. How is this going to work in actual reality?
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