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//Thank god most realise it's about maleness and not religion. // If 'maleness' is the fundamental problem we would see male names from an assortment of cultures on that list - but we don't. Those people who allegedly 'realise', consistently ignore the elephant in the room and are in denial - and denial of this on-going abuse does nothing to help the victims....
23:02 Wed 12th May 2021
TTT, i have already conceded that it was "your" point. Maybe you prefer to blame, than find answers.
I didn't say "gangs". I said paedophiles... so why pretend I didn't?
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AH: "But oddly, when I ask you to prove that they are Muslims, you can't answer" - I can't prove they are muslims but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then there's a pretty good chance it's a duck. Let me ask you to be honest. When you read the story and the list of names are you seriously saying you are not thinking the same as me and most people? If you started off with the assumptions that they are muslims, you'd probably be right, maybe the odd apostate but you know as well as me it's almost certain they are muslims.
I think the difference here is that GROUPS of these people are sexually abusing vulnerable youngsters whereas in other cultures it seems to be more of a one-on-one opportunistic crime.

Within a group of so many you would think one or two might have the moral decency to speak out about it rather than simply collaborate.
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pixie:"I didn't say "gangs". I said paedophiles... so why pretend I didn't?" - didn't I inluded your exact words in my reply....
"And yes... that would be more honest at least. Maybe next week, links to 10 atheist paedophiles, so we can all discuss why atheism is the main problem..." - I think 10 could be construed as a gang.
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davebro: "I think the difference here is that GROUPS of these people are sexually abusing vulnerable youngsters whereas in other cultures it seems to be more of a one-on-one opportunistic crime." - indeed but pixie, AH et al seem to conveniently overlook that.
Only if they were working together, ttt. You make an awful lot of presumptions.
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here we go ritual thread trashing has started.
I haven't overlooked it. Have you read the link I posted?
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is there anything in that home office report that explains why, If it's not a muslim problem, the perps in these kinds of grooming case are usually muslim?
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you are going to need more than a grauniad report quoting some TROB HO source.
Yes, ttt. Read it, they usually aren't Muslim. If the Home Office stats aren't good enough for you... I doubt there's anything anyone could say to change your mind.
Look at their ages. This is not a few over eager "lads". This is organised depravity, and still the libtards insist nothing to see here move along quietly. We even have women(I think) on this site who are prepared to speak up in support of the monsters. Do they have daughters or granddaughters, and if so are they to be considered safe?

Asad Ali, 37, of Brighouse, is charged with two counts of rape.
Ajmal Aziz, 39 of Halifax, is charged with three counts of rape and attempted rape.
Mohammed Jangier, 44, of Halifax, is charged with rape.
Mohammed Asif, 36, of Halifax, is charged with two counts of rape.
Harris Ahmed Butt, 37, of Halifax, is charged with two counts of rape and two counts of indecent assault.
Taukeer Butt, 36, of Halifax, is charged with three counts of rape.
Muitasim Khan, 40, of Halifax, is charged with rape.
Mohammed Hamza, 47, of Halifax, is charged with rape.
Mohsin Mir, 40, of Halifax, is charged with three counts of rape.
Javid Mir, 38, of Halifax, is charged with rape.
Haroon Saddique, 37, of Bradford, is charged with two counts of rape.
Zahir Iqbal, 41, of Halifax, is charged with two counts of rape.
Sarfraz Rabnawaz, 35, of Bradford, is charged with two counts of rape.
Wajid Addalat, 43, of Halifax, is charged with rape.
Sajid Addalat, 45, of Halifax, is charged with two counts of rape.
Nazim Hussain, 43, of Bradford, is charged with conspiracy to rape.
Nadeem Saddiqque, 43, of Sheffield, is charged with rape.
Saquab Hussain, 43, of Halifax, is charged with two counts of rape.
Sadakat Ali, 48, of Bradford, is charged with rape.
Ziarab Mohammed, 48, of Halifax, is charged with two counts of rape.
Imran Raja Yasin, 41, of Halifax, is charged with two counts of rape.
Zulfiqar Ali, 40, of Bradford, is charged with two counts of rape.
Malik Abid Qadeer, 64, of Halifax, is charged with five counts of rape.
Kamran Amin, 45, of Halifax, is charged with two counts of rape.
Mohammed Akhtar, 51, of Halifax, is charged with two counts of rape.
Ali Zulfiqar, 38, of Halifax, is charged with two counts of rape.
Shafiq Ali Rafiq, 40, of Dewsbury, is charged with two counts of rape.
Amir Shaban, 45, of Halifax, is charged with rape.
Sakeb Nazir, 36, of Halifax, is charged with two counts of rape.
^ That really, really makes disturbing reading.
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yes shirley and the refusal to see the elephant in the room of some on here is doubly disturbing.
No denying their religion in that lot is there?
Yes TTT, worrying.
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bobbi: "No denying their religion in that lot is there?"- you'd think so, but some on here are in denial.
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