Yorkshire School Protest

[mushroom25]

oh dear.....
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/live-angry-parent-protest-batley-20250996

the teacher must have known the likely reaction, and that it was likely to be a career ending move. why on earth.......???

[naomi24]

Silly argument pixie. What they regard as truth, you don’t - and vice versa. That’s why they’re creating havoc over a drawing - and you’re not.

[dannyk13]

I am not saying that what some of the protesters have done is either justified or acceptable.I do think that it would have been better if a representative of the Muslim parents had quietly spoken to the head explaining their protestations.

[pixie374]

You've agreed with me on this before, naomi. It isn't even an argument. It just depends what he was telling them. In any case, threats to life and protests outside the school are obviously unacceptable.

[naomi24]

When did that ever happen Danny? Only last year a teacher’s head was separated from his body for exactly the same ‘crime’ - which in fact isn’t a crime. People like you need to get real with this culture. Open your eyes.

[naomi24]

I don’t recall taking to you about this pixie and if I did and the subject was the same I certainly wouldn’t have agreed with you. The fact is to a devout Muslim his religion is his truth. It’s his whole life.

[pixie374]

And that was all blamed on a young female, and not the person who actually did it. It isn't us that needs to get real. But the people using religious beliefs as an excuse for violence.

[naomi24]

I’ve no idea what you’re talking about pixie.

[pixie374]

It wasn't about Islam, naomi. It was Maggiebee suggesting "maybe my truth isn't your truth". My reply, "the truth is the truthzl, you are referring to faith". And yours being "you took the words out of my mouth".
My memory is better than you like to think.
And in any case, religion-devout muslim or not- is NOT a reason for others to hide or shut up.

[pixie374]

Naomi, a teacher was beheaded, because a young Muslim girl lied about him. She was held entirely to blame- and not the 20 year old who actually beheaded him. I'm sure you already know this.

[naomi24]

Erm ... ok .... :o/

[pixie374]

Or not...

[naomi24]

I haven’t the foggiest idea what you’re talking about, pixie ... but never mind. It matters not. Carry on if you will.

[pixie374]

No need :-) lol

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - // What they regard as truth, you don’t - and vice versa. That’s why they’re creating havoc over a drawing - and you’re not. //

The point I believe pixie is making, and it cannot be argued with, because it is an absolute, is the concept of truth.

It's a pointless woke-ism to talk about 'his truth' or 'their truth' because that is not what they are taking about at all.

There is - the truth.

It's an absolute, a matter of facts, it cannot be argued with.

It can be disagreed with, and it can be interpreted in different ways to suit different people, but to call that 'their truth' is nonsense, it is not the truth, it is an interpretation of the truth, which is something entirely different.

To return to all the angst and hysteria, either from the reaction by some Muslims, or the reaction on here to that reaction, we have to remember a vital point -

We have no idea what the context and content of the lesson was - how the images were presented, or discussed, or meanings offered or stated by either the class or the pupils, and without that vital information, we are not able to make a reasoned response to the situation.

The school obviously know far more than we do, they will investigate, I believe fairly, and not simply in the interests of placating the loudest voices - and we will need to see what comes out of this when that enquiry is concluded.

What we must hope will come out, is the truth, not what people would like the truth to be to suit personal agendas and attitudes - either at the school, or on here.

[pixie374]

Thanks Andy... exactly. Naomi likes to apologise and make excuses for violent Muslims as much and often as possible. She is much more forgiving than I am.

[dannyk13]

Naomi, I don't need to open my eyes.They are open enough to see your antipathy towards people of a certain race or religion.

[naomi24]

Thank heavens for that!

[fender62]

heads off in france heads off in the uk, lee rigby
the devout do not see distance only the great umma, beheadings are very prescribed in the koran as it sets an example ie were mad or we mean it.

[naomi24]

^that to pixie. Other posts arrived when I wasn’t looking. I’ll read it all now.

[naomi24]

AH. Nonsense. A Muslim’s truth is that Mohammed is beyond criticism in any way - and for him that is the absolute truth. No question.

Pixie at 14.43. You appear to have lost the plot completely.

Danny. Think.