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// He can do what he likes. // no he can't. https://
10:24 Mon 14th Sep 2020
the FIA are taking an interest.
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>> He can do what he likes.
> No he can’t.
Yes, he can! For every TTT who comes out with "Just drive the jam jar Lewis!", there's a ANOther who'll say "Please, as a leading black person, support black people's issues." In the end, he chooses to "do what he likes" - not what other people tell him to do or not do.
> He doesn’t have to listen to us but he does have to pay heed to his employers.
Of course he does. I would imagine he thought about that. He may get fined, or worse. Clearly a risk he was prepared to take to stand up for what he believed in.
> No he can’t.
Yes, he can! For every TTT who comes out with "Just drive the jam jar Lewis!", there's a ANOther who'll say "Please, as a leading black person, support black people's issues." In the end, he chooses to "do what he likes" - not what other people tell him to do or not do.
> He doesn’t have to listen to us but he does have to pay heed to his employers.
Of course he does. I would imagine he thought about that. He may get fined, or worse. Clearly a risk he was prepared to take to stand up for what he believed in.
//I'm sure, like me, you've read the report of the incident Judge.//
No I haven't. I've absolutely no interest at all in what happens on the streets of the USA. I saw a clip of it on the news. I don't know what went before, I don't know what followed and I don't know any of the circumstances surrounding the event. This question is about Lewis Hamilton's appearance on the podium yesterday and whatever happened and whatever his motives I believe he abused his position and was out of order.
No I haven't. I've absolutely no interest at all in what happens on the streets of the USA. I saw a clip of it on the news. I don't know what went before, I don't know what followed and I don't know any of the circumstances surrounding the event. This question is about Lewis Hamilton's appearance on the podium yesterday and whatever happened and whatever his motives I believe he abused his position and was out of order.
When famous people exercise their fame to make a point personal to them, then flak is an inevitable consequence.
My view is that there is a time and a place.
As has been pointed out, Mr Hamilton is representing his employers in his professional environment, and as such, it is not appropriate that he advertise is own personal views on a news item involving a tragic death.
If Mr Hamilton wants to highlight this, or indeed any other incident or cause, he is absolutely at liberty to do so, the same as anyone else in a free society.
However, with fame and attendant exposure comes a degree of responsibility to be accepted, and one of those responsibilities is not to make Mr Hamilton's employers of sponsors appear to be silently supportive of his personal viewpoint. They may well be, but that is for them to say, not for him to imply on their time.
My view is that there is a time and a place.
As has been pointed out, Mr Hamilton is representing his employers in his professional environment, and as such, it is not appropriate that he advertise is own personal views on a news item involving a tragic death.
If Mr Hamilton wants to highlight this, or indeed any other incident or cause, he is absolutely at liberty to do so, the same as anyone else in a free society.
However, with fame and attendant exposure comes a degree of responsibility to be accepted, and one of those responsibilities is not to make Mr Hamilton's employers of sponsors appear to be silently supportive of his personal viewpoint. They may well be, but that is for them to say, not for him to imply on their time.
Stephen - // They will be speaking to the drivers and teams about their obligations before and after races though. //
I do love the diplomatic language organisations use when the speak to the media, and the potential hidden meanings.
For example - "Helping the police with their enquiries ..." which can mean anything from a cosy chat with the sergeant over a nice cup of tea in the canteen, to spending a couple of hours in a soundproof spell not enjoying a forceful rubber hose / genitals interface.
Then there is "We'd like to thank Mr Sprocket for all his hard work, and wish him well in his future endeavours ... " actually means - Thank god the incompetent idiot has been got rid of, he's utterly unemployable, but as long as he isn;t cluttering up our workspace ...
And of course "The drivers have been spoken to about their responsibilities ... which is "If you ever pull a bleeping stunt like that again, not only will you get bleeping fired in sixty bleeping seconds, you'll need the bleeping paramedics to extract the bleeping wheel wrench from your bleeping bleep!!!
I do love the diplomatic language organisations use when the speak to the media, and the potential hidden meanings.
For example - "Helping the police with their enquiries ..." which can mean anything from a cosy chat with the sergeant over a nice cup of tea in the canteen, to spending a couple of hours in a soundproof spell not enjoying a forceful rubber hose / genitals interface.
Then there is "We'd like to thank Mr Sprocket for all his hard work, and wish him well in his future endeavours ... " actually means - Thank god the incompetent idiot has been got rid of, he's utterly unemployable, but as long as he isn;t cluttering up our workspace ...
And of course "The drivers have been spoken to about their responsibilities ... which is "If you ever pull a bleeping stunt like that again, not only will you get bleeping fired in sixty bleeping seconds, you'll need the bleeping paramedics to extract the bleeping wheel wrench from your bleeping bleep!!!
politics has no place in sport - unless it's the politics I agree with of course, then it's all good. I don't even see it as politics, just someone saying something sensible.
Spicey ..//Imagine all the real good he could do if he came home and paid tax. Not holding my breath mind.//
Agree with Spicerack here. Hamilton is a greedy tax dodger that I have no time for.
Spicey ..//Imagine all the real good he could do if he came home and paid tax. Not holding my breath mind.//
Agree with Spicerack here. Hamilton is a greedy tax dodger that I have no time for.
tomus - // Agree with Spicerack here. Hamilton is a greedy tax dodger that I have no time for. //
Mr Hamilton, like everyone else, is entitled to live where he chooses.
Being successful, and therefore wealthy, makes no moral obligation on him to live in the country of his birth, and subject himself to its draconian tax laws - I wouldn't in his position.
Mr Hamilton, like everyone else, is entitled to live where he chooses.
Being successful, and therefore wealthy, makes no moral obligation on him to live in the country of his birth, and subject himself to its draconian tax laws - I wouldn't in his position.
Spicerack - // I agree, Andy. Nothing wrong with lessening one's tax burden. //
The hostility Mr Hamilton attracts for his living arrangements also makes an utterly unproven assumption that his choice of domicile is entirely due to its lenient tax arrangements, and pays no mind to the fact that he may actually live there simply because he likes the place.
The hostility Mr Hamilton attracts for his living arrangements also makes an utterly unproven assumption that his choice of domicile is entirely due to its lenient tax arrangements, and pays no mind to the fact that he may actually live there simply because he likes the place.
Spicerack - // Alright, it's the 'black thing' really.
The Guardian must be the biggest tax-dodger nowadays. //
It's important to remember the difference between tax avoidance (dodging) and tax evasion.
Avoidance means simply not paying tax due - which is an offence, and evasion is exploitation of tax legislation to avoid payment of tax, which is not an offence - indeed it should be compulsory!
If the government persists in offering tax laws that a competent accountant can drive a coach-and-four through, then it deserves to lose the revenue, until such times as its own accountants can implement legislation to close any and all such loopholes.
The Guardian must be the biggest tax-dodger nowadays. //
It's important to remember the difference between tax avoidance (dodging) and tax evasion.
Avoidance means simply not paying tax due - which is an offence, and evasion is exploitation of tax legislation to avoid payment of tax, which is not an offence - indeed it should be compulsory!
If the government persists in offering tax laws that a competent accountant can drive a coach-and-four through, then it deserves to lose the revenue, until such times as its own accountants can implement legislation to close any and all such loopholes.
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