Another One Resisting Arrest, When Will They Learn?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53037953
Probably thought with Floydgate he could get away with anything. He stole a Tazer and tried to use it on the officer, he was shot, quite rightly, so why was the officer fired? Why did the police chief feel the need to resign? All this has done is now give carte Blanche to resist arrest.

[Ken4155]

"..he was shot, quite rightly.." Disgusting attitude. Someone hits you with a rolled up newspaper, you don't retaliate with a spiked billy-club.

[dannyk13]

Bit of overkill on the part of the policeman.His life wasn't in danger.

[Peter Pedant]

newspaper
erm that would be - - The Electric Telegraph ?

Tennyson - lines on the deff of Prince Albert

DOwn the wondrous telegraph the wondrous message came
He is no better he is much the same

cd be Wm Topaz McGonagall

[Mozz71]

The copper had a great chance to stand up and show folk what good policing os, instead he decided to fan the flames of discontent by putting another black body on the morgue.

Honestly Tora, and this gives me no pleasure to say, you're beginning to look like slightly more than an average right winger.

[jim360]

The original call was because the man was in his car, asleep. If that ends up in the same man dead then something seriously went wrong, and I don't mean that it started when the man grabbed the taser. Why was he prompted to do that? Do you think the police acted reasonably before then? And afterwards, as danny says, the lives of the police were in no danger. Being tasered is unpleasant but not usually fatal.

The flaw here is that waking somebody in their car up isn't something that police should really be handling in the first place.

[Peter Pedant]

Hi Jim
I think he might have had form - or there was warrant out for his arrest or a three strike rule

http://www.dcor.state.ga.us/sites/all/files/pdf/Research/Standing/Truth_in_sentencing.pdf

[Mozz71]

A lot of conjecture there Jim. Similar to some of the rational given by some to Flord's killing. The events leading the this reaction may paint the victim in a different light, rather than the cop.

[mushroom25]

// The original call was because the man was in his car, asleep. //

not just asleep, but asleep in his car blocking the drive-thru lane (it's in the link). maybe still not enough to involve the police? or maybe there was, as also in the link is a suggestion he subsequently failed a breathalyser test. it doesn't say who called the police but if it was the restaurant staff, willing to bet they're probably instructed not to intervene but to seek help.

doesn't justify drawing weapons but there appears to be more to this than we currently know.

[jim360]

I'll accept some conjecture, but it still stands to reason that if your job was to wake somebody up and you end up putting them to sleep forever then you have failed in your job.

[allenlondon]

Well, many black people have been arrested for DWB (driving while black).

Now apparently they face a new crime - SWB (sleeping while black).

As my old ethnically-challenged mate Cecil used to say, “It’s lucky I ain’t black...”

[Mozz71]

I think the problem is running and shooting tazers at coppers, whether black or not. He was stupid, especially given the current climate, but stupidity shouldn't be a capital offense.

[youngmafbog]

Allen, writing garbage like that does nothing to improve things. Quite the opposite in fact.

It's always difficult to comment on these things. Firstly because it always seems to transpire the story was missing a load when first reported. Secondly because in the USA guns are rife and decisions like these are made in seconds. Pointing a weapon at US (and a fair few other countries) Police will result in you being shot no matter what race or creed you are.

[ToraToraTora]

yep, YMB, he tried to disable a copper with a tazer, that will get you shot in most countries of the world. What are they supposed to do? let themselves be tazered?

[jim360]

Of course not, but at least one of the stories I've seen on this mentions that the cops had another taser themselves. So that means that there was a non-lethal option available. It simply shouldn't happen that interactions with the cops end up routinely with somebody dying. That's a symptom of a broken society.

[iluvmargie]

No need whatsoever for the police chief to resign. Getting wayyy out of hand now.

[allenlondon]

youngbog expostulates “writing garbage like that does nothing to improve things. Quite the opposite in fact. “

To which we all respond, “well, you should know, pal, you should know.”

[retrocop]

I believe that most people in the UK are pretty clued up in how one behaves when having an interaction with American Police Officers. I have learnt from North American ABers and my sister that one complies with what you are ordered to do by them. If they pull you for running a red or speeding you stop. You place your hands where they can be clearly seen by the approaching officer because he is sure to have drawn his weapon when approaching the car from behind. Only when he/she is satisfied you pose no threat will they let you exit the car or produce a licence/permit etc.
The last thing I would do is excitedly dance around protesting or attempting to lay hands on an officer . Surely,we in the UK, know the consequences of doing as I described so why is it so difficult to understand in the States?
They seem to have a few jittery cops out there and their self preservation is paramount and should always be born in mind when confronted by them.
My sister was a High school teacher in Ontario. Before she re-married she went ,with her flat mate to Florida for their summer vacation. Many Canadians do have holiday homes in the states.
Her flat mate was raped whilst out one day and came back to the apartment traumatised and shocked. My sister called the cops.
As the daughter of a London police officer she was horrified at the brutal interrogation of the victim and how the cops treated her when she advised a medical examination. They were going to leave them
with the promise they would file a report!! My sister was threatened with arrest for interfering with a police investigation. She learnt very quickly when crossing the border in to Buffalo from Niagra you daren't ask a U.S. cop what the time is unless you want a disrespectful response. She picked up their rules in their country pronto.

[andy-hughes]

retrocop - // I believe that most people in the UK are pretty clued up in how one behaves when having an interaction with American Police Officers. //

Unfortunately, that premise does rely on the presumption of common sense and intelligence on the part of anyone interacting with the police.

Sadly, by definition, the people interacting with the police at the level of confrontation where guns are likely to be in play, possess less, if any, of those necessary personality traits.