How Many Of Us Girls Were ‘Brownies’ And Boys Were Scouts?

[Bobbisox1]

I was a Brownie ( will that be changed to something else now?)
I suppose I was a product of Baden Powells teachings, I learnt etiquette, camaraderie and much more as a small girl, how can they erase history like this?

[jim360]

1. How is learning more about somebody you may have previously looked up to without knowing their flaws "erasing" history, rather than enhancing our understanding of it?
2. Why is history treated as so vulnerable that merely temporarily removing a statue is enough to erase it?

[Bobbisox1]

PP, I find this particular rambling of yours quite offensive and as usual hard to follow

[SparklyKid]

Hi Bobbs, here you go,lol.

[Peter Pedant]

sozza bobbi
Jimz entry sounds like one of mine
Has he been reading Hardy I wonder ?

[vulcan42]

\\ . Why is history treated as so vulnerable that merely temporarily removing a statue is enough to erase it?//
Do you honestly believe the mob who removed the statue and dumped it in the river were thinking "this is only temporary"?

[Bobbisox1]

Dib did dib Sparklykid haha

[Peter Pedant]

sozza bozza
amazingly I didnt mean to insult, etc
have requested euthanasia - on the post

[jim360]

No, but RBP's statue was removed by the council with the intent of returning it, so I think it's somewhat relevant. In Colston's case, the statue has already been retrieved and will likely be put on display again, albeit in a different context.

Even permanently removing a statue doesn't really erase history either.

[Bobbisox1]

And for the record, I did NOT report your comment PP

[woofgang]

I was a brownie and got thrown out for swearing. our Tawny owl had long manicured nails and one meeting we were dancing and I went the wrong way. She grabbed my arm so the nails dug in and pulled me into place. I yelled out "that bloody hurt" and my career as a brownie was over. I honestly cannot see how telling the whole story about a person is erasing history. And while we are at it, he kicked his sister out of the movement (she started the guide movement) in favour of his wife.....

[Bobbisox1]

Got to be BA for you woofs haha

[bhg481]

I wonder how many people have lived their life without offending a large group of the population unintentionally. Some jobs carry a hate with them (traffic warden, MP etc), the type of car you drive (dirty diesel, gas-guzzler, any car at all), your lifestyle etc. It's just about impossible to live nowadays without offending someone.

[Bobbisox1]

Well said bhg

[naomi24]

Jim, //merely temporarily removing a statue//

Not enough spin on that one, Jim. You’ve been rumbled. Try harder.

You’re absolutely right, Bobbi. For the poor what Baden Powell offered was a godsend but people like him will be remembered only for the negative - the rest airbrushed from history. Meanwhile, those intent on destruction will continue to take advantage of all the good those men did. Hypocrites all.

[Peter Pedant]

sozza bozza and also Jozza

No, but RBP's statue was removed by the council with the intent of returning it, so I think it's somewhat relevant.

nope - none of you have been following my Broadchurch thread. Poole council ( havenpool that is! ) decided last night to delay the removal of Baden Powell ( 's statue ) because the foundationw were too deep. However the news said the people of Poole Quay had interfered - no pasaran etc ( no one there speaks Spanish)

so the statue is still there in situ
scouts flanking it - with the support of the people of poole

which is why I thought Jims post had wandered out of a corrie thread or something

sozza again - I thought the thread was about Brownies only turning into nice people

[Bobbisox1]

Not always PP, likewise Scouts but that’s life as we know it

[bhg481]

Naomi //Meanwhile, those intent on destruction will continue to take advantage of all the good those men did. Hypocrites all. //
Yes, I wonder how many of these protesters are avoiding using the hospitals/schools etc that the "evil men" have provided. If they are being consistent they should demand the bulldozing of the hospitals etc as they remain a monument to the benefactor. Simply renaming them will not do - they will still exist so they must be destroyed and the land left unused.

[Peter Pedant]

No I did Bobz
no intention to insult - and that some Brownies do turn into botches
and here we have woof - who I always thought was a man
getting BA for a tale of sin and insult
Ho hum there;s AB for you

and oo a lot of scouts oop t north have very happy memories of being a scout and hols on Brownsea Is ( that bit went out as well)

y'all clear?
Baking Powder is still on Poole Quay
( Baking Powder was his nick name when he was commanding Mafeking )( yes I know this as my father was in the same primary class as Botha and Smuts' sons)

[TheWholeTruth]

@bhg481

"It's just about impossible to live nowadays without offending someone."...you cannot offend anybody, they decide to be offended or not