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Death Sentence, Should It Come Back?

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piggynose | 15:36 Mon 06th Jan 2020 | News
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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50987823
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// we could save millions with the re-introduction of the death penalty but sadly won’t see its return.//

saving the cost of 3000 plates of porridge ( cost of a prison sentence) is peanuts compared to the cost of getting it wrong

we would have zeroed what ten irishmen who we now know didnt bomb B'hm guildford or the M62.
not- we arent sure either way but - we NOW they didnt do it and were framed

and what since you re ex mil
about the cost of bloody sunday? 14 dead and cost was £140m

that is £10m for each death

when I said -"0 why not just give £10m to each family?" the Great and Good who rule us so wisely looked at me as though I were mad
Apparently reports from the court room are that the judge opined that he enjoyed the whole trial process and indeed revelled in it, just watching on BBC now.

A bullet and a shallow ditch is all he deserves.
For the most extreme, multiple offenders. People who are guilty beyond doubt. People like this piece of crap? I'm tempted to say yes. At the very least, make prison a punishment. Hard labour.
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I agree with Bobbs. Death sentence for terrorists, rapists, serial killers,police murderers like Dale Cregan, child killers like Hindley and Brady, The Wests, Mick Philpot,Beverley Allitt others like Shipley, sorry I could just go on and on.They along with others don't deserve to live.
Peter P yes undoughtably there have been some miscarriages of justice in the past and innocent people have died which in inexcusable. My point is that with todays forensic methods, if proof is 100% proved why keep people in jail for 30 years or indefinitely? Do not agree wish a painful death just a lethal injection.
No.
What again ?
No, for the reasons expressed a number of times in earlier threads. The reasons won't change with further future crimes.
TonyV 'My point is that with todays forensic methods, if proof is 100% proved why keep people in jail for 30 years or indefinitely? Do not agree wish a painful death just a lethal injection.'
I agree with you 100%.
If lethal injection is good enough for my loved poor pet cat then it's probably too good for a rapist. Rope and tree I say!
Probably should never have been abolished - just regulated for different "grades" of murder. But now there is no chance it will be revived.
I don't think gaol is such a soft option as some seem to think. The food won't be that great and you won't be mixing with the nicest people. I don't think I could last a 20 yr sentence - hence the incidence of prison suicides. I suppose after a few years you would get institutionalised & adapt to it.
If proof is 100%, how is anything proven 100% ?
And even if it were, why keep people in jail for 30 years or indefinitely ? Well because it's immoral to do otherwise. It means either taking a life, making the State worse than the perpetrator, or letting them loose in society to commit more offences.
TheDevil lets not be so barbaric in 2020, just let them die peacefully, and rid society, might actually act as some sort of deterrent?
"making the State worse than the perpetrator"

That's highly debatable, which I guess is what this thread is mainly about.

How is giving someone the beauty of a painless, relaxed and guaranteed legal death worse than raping 200+ women?
Also, how is making someone live in a grim cell with poor food and constant physical thread from other inmates more humane than sending that person peacefully into a never ending sleep?

I'd rather lethal injection than prison never ever going to see outside again.

Death row in america, the prisoners live for it. They get treated like royalty on death row and it usually still takes a good 20+ years for their injections. Just because you're on death row doesn't mean there is a time limit to your end of life. Death row in america has it good, compared to regular prisoners.
OG with current forensics and DNA capablities. I know of one particular case where perpetrator was convicted many years after event and convicted after raping and killing a girl. He was arrested after DNA test for drink driving and his DNA was linked by forensic evidence
// It means either taking a life, making the State worse than the perpetrator //

The state already takes lives when it sees fit. That's why we have an armed forces and armed police. No-one complains about it except perhaps some Quakers.
Will it come back?
No
Regardless of what some might want.
It’s very easy to pick out the really horrid crimes we’d like to see punishable by death.
Only two countries in Europe retain the death penalty and one (Russia) doesn’t use it (officially) to enable it to be a member of the Council of Europe.
It isn’t coming back.
TD, where has your 'treated like royalty on Death Row' stuff come from? Prisoners are usually locked in their 8 x 10 (on average) cells for 23 hours a day, they don't get to interact or even chat to other prisoners. In what way do they 'have it good'? I'm genuinely curious.
O-G do you not think it was immoral what the perpetrators did to their innocent victims?

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