Is This Really About 'unhealthy Food' ?

[TheDevil]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/12/03/teachers-acting-like-bouncers-outside-takeaways-sweet-shops/

[pixie374]

This is way beyond what the school should be allowed to do.

[emmie]

does seem a step too far, but then shops shouldn't be relying on children should they.....

[TheDevil]

"It says it is using powers given to schools by Michael Gove in 2011 which allows it to rule over over the conduct of pupils in certain circumstances outside the school gates, in a bid to improve discipline."

The school says it's using powers given to them by Gove but I've not read what these "powers" are, so i'm not sure if the powers do allow them to enter kebab shops and stop them buying food.

[Mamyalynne]

No, it isn't about food - as the article states it's more about dispersal.

I'm not at all keen on this practice.

[TheDevil]

"but then shops shouldn't be relying on children should they....."

I best go and tell the Early Learning Centre to shut down because it's ethics are wrong.

[ludwig]

Ridiculous. What the actual f has it got to do with the school which shops children go into after school?
Is this even legal?

[TheDevil]

Ludwig i'm not sure. I think to find out we need to determine what law Michael gove granted teachers in 2011 and in what circumstances it applies.

[TheDevil]

In some instances, the children have paid for food and not yet received their orders and the teachers have blackmailed them with detentions to remove themselves from the shop. That seems immoral to me. Why do the teachers do this, someone must have asked them to and if I was a teacher I'd just say 'No' i'm not refusing kids the right to order and eat food.

[pastafreak]

// It says it is using powers given to schools by Michael Gove in 2011 which allows it to rule over over the conduct of pupils in certain circumstances outside the school gates, in a bid to improve discipline. //

I'm sorry, but kids spending money on junk food after school hours has nothing to do with discipline. Much as I personally hate the proliferation of such outlets near schools, it's none of the schools business. Next they will be following kids home, and monitoring what they are eating for tea. *rolls eyes*

[youngmafbog]

If there is any law to enable this I would imagine it is to stop 'gangs' of kids 'terrorising' the neighbourhood.
I wonder if all shops are complaining or just the few as it could be some shops have suffered thefts or damage.
Without full facts it is very difficult to comment.

[pastafreak]

Early Learning isn't comparing like with like.

[emmie]

some shops then

[TheDevil]

YMB, the teachers have been seen patrolling a parade of stores. Usually near a school there are only a couple of popular shops that the pupils will want to go to. There will be a newsagents, probably one chip / kebab shop and one sweet shop that are mainly affected.

[youngmafbog]

You dont know the whole story do you?

[10ClarionSt]

Maybe one of the parents will report a teacher for stalking the children. Who knows?

[TheDevil]

YMB - "You dont know the whole story do you?"

I have only read this article and the one from the Metro.

[sherrardk]

The school have issued a statement about it https://www.cotham.bristol.sch.uk/news/?pid=3&;nid=1&storyid=1768

[ludwig]

// If there is any law to enable this I would imagine it is to stop 'gangs' of kids 'terrorising' the neighbourhood. //

If that is what's happening, I'd say it's a matter for the police, not the school.

[TheDevil]

The schools statement basically admits they were wrong "However, we have decided that we will no longer provide a staff presence in the vicinity of the shops."

It doesn't highlight why they implemented this process in the first place.

I think the school needs to give their pupils some credit and understand ages from year 7 - 13 are drastically different and if the parents of these kids give them money to go to the shops on the way home then they should be allowed to do so. Teachers have no right to parent the pupils.

[Old_Geezer]

They aren't advising they're doing their best to force their decision. There is no evidence that being inside a shop is inherently less safe than being on the pavement.

Control freakery is not good, and government should try making sensible rights into law, not encourage any authority to do the wrong thing and be able to claim it's right because central government allows it.