Essex Lorry Deaths: Driver Charged With Manslaughter Of 39 People

[NellieMay]

Sorry, I can't copy links. BBC news 45 mins ago.

[pixie374]

Did he put them in? I had seen that he had only picked the lorry up a couple of hours before?

[gulliver1]

No problem N/M 19.29, I am just finishing the last Glass in my Drop.

[NellieMay]

Everyone involved is guilty of these deaths in my opinion - even if they played a small part.

[Jackdaw33]

I don't think that two hours, even in those conditions, would have killed all 39. They must have been put in abroad.

[derek-33]

Well that really is terrible tonyv I did not read that.i hope they get the lot charged.
Sad thing is it will still go one with other criminal's

[Ellipsis]

One of the apparent victims was sending texts just a few hours before being discovered:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50159748
Pham Tra My, 26, sent distressed messages to family on Tuesday night. "I am dying, I can't breathe," the text read. She has not been heard from since.
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The police said they had received the first reports about bodies found in a lorry at the Waterglade Industrial Park in Grays just before 01:40 local time (00:40 GMT) on Wednesday 23 October

[Barmaid]

I don't think it matters when the deaths occurred. If he was involved in the operation knowingly it is right he faces a charge of manslaughter as well as the other charges I hope that they have the right man, wherever he is in the chain.

And I hope there is some justice for those poor souls.

[pixie374]

I hope they also find the people that put them in, if different.

[Jackdaw33]

I agree, Barmaid. It all hinges around whether je knew what the 'cargo' was, or just an innocent trucker.

[Barmaid]

That's the crux of it, Jackdaw.

[andres]

I did wonder about him when a snippet on the news said that he had recently bought a house. Not that he couldn't have had a mortgage but it just made me think.

[Tilly2]

What I would like to know is who alerted the paramedics? I can't seem to find an answer to that.

[Jackdaw33]

He did, when he opened the back of the lorry to check the paperwork.

[Tilly2]

Is that so, Jackdaw?

[Jackdaw33]

So I have read.

[douglas9401]

It might be better all round if the powers that be took a deep breath before unleashing the full power of the law.

Save all this to and fro of change and retraction.
There seems an urgency to get something, anything to the waiting media pack before some basic stuff's been done.

[Hopkirk]

I think quite the opposite Douglas, they appear to be carefully investigating and casting the net wide.

[douglas9401]

Somebody seems to be getting mixed up though.

I've seen, charged with murder, released, not released, innocent party and now manslaughter.

A few deep breaths and statements of fact would reflect better on investigators and their professionalism.

Just my opinion.

[Hopkirk]

It's the journalists getting it wrong, not the investigators.

The Daily Mail is still claiming they froze to death, despite one of the victims appearing to text that she couldn't breathe.

[pixie374]

I saw that too, hoppy, although extreme hypothermia does cause breathlessness. Are the PM's still ongoing? Sorry... I am not up to date x