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Words.....too Much Emphasis On Them
‘Humbug’ etc
Is the infighting losing its way?
Is the infighting losing its way?
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I find it quite astonishing just how hypocritical some of the Remainer MP are. They are taking cognitive dissonance to new levels of absurdity. I could post a lengthy self-penned polemic on this utter farce but instead I shall post a lengthy polemic spoken by Julia Hartley- Brewer since she put it far better than I ever could: “So far Remainers have called...
00:14 Fri 27th Sep 2019
"Humbug" was part of the response to this,
"I genuinely do not seek to stifle robust debate, but this evening the Prime Minister has continually used pejorative language to describe an Act of Parliament that was passed by this House. I am sure you would agree, Mr Speaker, that we should not resort to the use of offensive, dangerous or inflammatory language about legislation that we do not like.​
We stand here, Mr Speaker, under the shield of our departed friend. Many of us in this place are subject to death threats and abuse every single day. Let me tell the Prime Minister that they often quote his words—surrender Act, betrayal, traitor—and I, for one, am sick of it. We must moderate our language, and that has to come from the Prime Minister first, so I should be interested in hearing his opinion. He should be absolutely ashamed of himself."
Was the PM's reply appropriate?
"I genuinely do not seek to stifle robust debate, but this evening the Prime Minister has continually used pejorative language to describe an Act of Parliament that was passed by this House. I am sure you would agree, Mr Speaker, that we should not resort to the use of offensive, dangerous or inflammatory language about legislation that we do not like.​
We stand here, Mr Speaker, under the shield of our departed friend. Many of us in this place are subject to death threats and abuse every single day. Let me tell the Prime Minister that they often quote his words—surrender Act, betrayal, traitor—and I, for one, am sick of it. We must moderate our language, and that has to come from the Prime Minister first, so I should be interested in hearing his opinion. He should be absolutely ashamed of himself."
Was the PM's reply appropriate?
I heard Dianne Abbott slamming Boris this morning on Radio 4. She compaline dthat he had broken the law and yet some Tory MPs had cheered him- and then drew an analogy with others who break the law like murderer and said they wouldn't cheer a murderer. Clearly Boris is not the only one using emotive language
Its wasn't the word, but the fact that BoJo dismissed a claim of a fellow MP that she and her family have received death threats online since this debacle begun.
If this is true (and there is nothing to suggest that it isn't), there should be investigations into it, not summary dismissal of the claim by the PM. It was bad form from Boris.
If this is true (and there is nothing to suggest that it isn't), there should be investigations into it, not summary dismissal of the claim by the PM. It was bad form from Boris.
Perfectly appropriate. The humbug ought not have been brought up in the first place.
If one doesn't want it pointed out they'd passed an Act of Surrender to the EU, which was a betrayal of nation and democracy, and could thus be considered traitors, then the best thing to have done was not to have passed an Act of Surrender to the EU, which was a betrayal of nation and democracy, and thus become considered traitors to various folk.
Crying over it afterwards because it obvious what they'd done isn't the sort of thing one expects from a tough political adversary.
If one doesn't want it pointed out they'd passed an Act of Surrender to the EU, which was a betrayal of nation and democracy, and could thus be considered traitors, then the best thing to have done was not to have passed an Act of Surrender to the EU, which was a betrayal of nation and democracy, and thus become considered traitors to various folk.
Crying over it afterwards because it obvious what they'd done isn't the sort of thing one expects from a tough political adversary.
I just heard Traitor Major railing against the P.M. with regard to certain words used by Boris Johnson in his parliamentary speeches. Apart from the word Traitor, which Major is, He whined about his dislike of the word 'betrayal'. No surprise there then. I am sure it resonated many times when his wife accused him of it when he was screwing Edwina Currie.. That 'has been' P.M. would be wiser to clam up and wind his neck in . He is no paragon of virtue and has the morals off a alley cat.
When our remainers whine that the P.M. has unlawfully prorogued Parliament and lied to the people they convieniently forget that their former Labour Prime Minister and his current serving members in the Labour party lied to the people, went against the peoples wishes, and took us into a 'Unlawful War' whereby good young service people died and created further unrest where thousands of innocents were killed in the M.E.
I don't think anyone should go to work with death threats sitting on their door steps whatever party they represent but these politicians were happy,in the Labour party, to send young service personnel to face death on a bunch of lies their leader (Bliar) invented.
I can only finish by saying if you represent the people and then stab them in the back then you can expect the worst. You will become seriously unpopular and face violence and death.
I recall a few high profile heads of state I had to protect in the UK.
Indira Ghandi, Rhanjit Ghandi, Golda Meir. They were safe in our hands in the UK but were bumped off pronto when back home, having seriously upset the people they represent. Jo Cox didn't get the protection of a high profile target and was bumped off by a right wing opportunist nutter.
I am sure that security must be ramped up now as a result of the majority being betrayed by those who are not accepting the democratic vote. If the Labourites and the rest who attempt to thwart democracy and the will of the people are frit then put up or shut up . Lets have a G.E.
When our remainers whine that the P.M. has unlawfully prorogued Parliament and lied to the people they convieniently forget that their former Labour Prime Minister and his current serving members in the Labour party lied to the people, went against the peoples wishes, and took us into a 'Unlawful War' whereby good young service people died and created further unrest where thousands of innocents were killed in the M.E.
I don't think anyone should go to work with death threats sitting on their door steps whatever party they represent but these politicians were happy,in the Labour party, to send young service personnel to face death on a bunch of lies their leader (Bliar) invented.
I can only finish by saying if you represent the people and then stab them in the back then you can expect the worst. You will become seriously unpopular and face violence and death.
I recall a few high profile heads of state I had to protect in the UK.
Indira Ghandi, Rhanjit Ghandi, Golda Meir. They were safe in our hands in the UK but were bumped off pronto when back home, having seriously upset the people they represent. Jo Cox didn't get the protection of a high profile target and was bumped off by a right wing opportunist nutter.
I am sure that security must be ramped up now as a result of the majority being betrayed by those who are not accepting the democratic vote. If the Labourites and the rest who attempt to thwart democracy and the will of the people are frit then put up or shut up . Lets have a G.E.
I find it quite astonishing just how hypocritical some of the Remainer MP are. They are taking cognitive dissonance to new levels of absurdity. I could post a lengthy self-penned polemic on this utter farce but instead I shall post a lengthy polemic spoken by Julia Hartley-Brewer since she put it far better than I ever could:
“So far Remainers have called Leave voters racists, xenophobes, fascists, far-right, ignorant, uneducated, stupid and some have even celebrated that some elderly Leave voters have died off.
Labour MPs who last night accused the PM of insulting the memory of murdered MP, Jo Cox are the same MPs who cheer on a party leader in Jeremy Corbin whose friends include the IRA, Hamas and anti-Semites and they cheer on a shadow chancellor, John McDonnell, who laughs openly on stage about lynching a female Tory MP and calls her a word we normally reserve for female dogs.
The Lib Dem MPs calling for less extreme language are the very same MPs who campaigned at the last European elections in May with an official party slogan, b****ks to Brexit. The MPs shouting that “you should be in jail” to the PM are the same ones who, on hearing the word 'humbug', pass the smelling salts. Boris Johnson didn't invoke Jo Cox, he didn't use her name. He didn't mention her. When he said 'humbug' he wasn't dismissing the murder of an innocent MP in the European election campaign. He was rightly dismissing the outrageous claims of Labour MP, Paula Sherriff, who tried to invoke Jo Cox's murder for political point scoring.
This is how low some people in this debate will go. They'll laugh at a rapper who holds up an effigy of Boris Johnson's severed head at an awards ceremony. They'll laugh when Nigel Farage gets 'milkshaked' or angry mobs shout outside Jacob Rees-Mogg's house when his children are there...”
And there you have it. The pearl-clutching Remainer MPs who are calling for more moderate language are the very same MPs who have deliberately ramped up the rhetoric. Now they're getting a taste of their own medicine and they're crying foul. Every single one of them stood on a platform in their respective party manifestos back in 2017 of enacting the will of the majority of the voting public in the referendum to leave the EU. These people are now wilfully attempting to subvert the democratic will of the people which they promised to uphold.
They are disgraceful, traitorous and deceitful charlatans and most will soon find themselves ousted at the next General Election when it inevitably comes.
And it can't come too soon.
“So far Remainers have called Leave voters racists, xenophobes, fascists, far-right, ignorant, uneducated, stupid and some have even celebrated that some elderly Leave voters have died off.
Labour MPs who last night accused the PM of insulting the memory of murdered MP, Jo Cox are the same MPs who cheer on a party leader in Jeremy Corbin whose friends include the IRA, Hamas and anti-Semites and they cheer on a shadow chancellor, John McDonnell, who laughs openly on stage about lynching a female Tory MP and calls her a word we normally reserve for female dogs.
The Lib Dem MPs calling for less extreme language are the very same MPs who campaigned at the last European elections in May with an official party slogan, b****ks to Brexit. The MPs shouting that “you should be in jail” to the PM are the same ones who, on hearing the word 'humbug', pass the smelling salts. Boris Johnson didn't invoke Jo Cox, he didn't use her name. He didn't mention her. When he said 'humbug' he wasn't dismissing the murder of an innocent MP in the European election campaign. He was rightly dismissing the outrageous claims of Labour MP, Paula Sherriff, who tried to invoke Jo Cox's murder for political point scoring.
This is how low some people in this debate will go. They'll laugh at a rapper who holds up an effigy of Boris Johnson's severed head at an awards ceremony. They'll laugh when Nigel Farage gets 'milkshaked' or angry mobs shout outside Jacob Rees-Mogg's house when his children are there...”
And there you have it. The pearl-clutching Remainer MPs who are calling for more moderate language are the very same MPs who have deliberately ramped up the rhetoric. Now they're getting a taste of their own medicine and they're crying foul. Every single one of them stood on a platform in their respective party manifestos back in 2017 of enacting the will of the majority of the voting public in the referendum to leave the EU. These people are now wilfully attempting to subvert the democratic will of the people which they promised to uphold.
They are disgraceful, traitorous and deceitful charlatans and most will soon find themselves ousted at the next General Election when it inevitably comes.
And it can't come too soon.
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