How Can The Manchester Bomber's Brother Also Be Charged With The Murder Of The Arena's Victims, If He Was In Libya At The Time?

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7260035/Manchester-Arena-bomber-Salman-Abedis-brother-arrives-court.html

[Rockrose]

Did he have knowledge of the plans?
Perhaps he helped draw up the plans?
I am sure the authorities have the evidence that require them to make such charges.

[dannyk13]

Probably conspired with his brother.

[ladybirder]

Didn't he have something to do with making the bombs?

[ludwig]

From the link..

//Hashem Abedi is suspected of helping build the back-pack nail bomb his brother Salman detonated, killing innocent men, women and children.//

[anotheoldgit]

Then surely the charge would be conspiracy to murder and not actual murder?

[ludwig]

// Then surely the charge would be conspiracy to murder and not actual murder? //

Dunno. They obviously think a murder charge is appropriate and provable in court, so it must be.

[THECORBYLOON]

I think the difference with conspiracy is there is intention to commit an offence but it doesn't happen. In this case, planned murders did result in deaths so a murder charge is appropriate for an accomplice.

[Togo]

Ludwig. I believe he is accused of making the detonators and helping with the procuring of substances used to make the bomb knowing what his brother intended to use them for.

[retrocop]

GMP have had long enough to get the evidence sufficient to convince the Criminal Protection Service .....errr haven't they?

[bobbs202]

And what has the UK offered Libya for his extradition?

[fiction-factory]

Lol- I was just about to correct you about CPS then realised what you did there, retro

[retrocop]

ff
Thanks for the thought but I, and a few thousand other coppers, knew I was correct in my interpretation. :-(

[vulcan42]

Do the rules change if it's terrorism related and not, if there is such a thing, a standard murder?

[Spicerack]

Why was the Government aiding and abetting these two islamists, the rest of their islamist family and the wider Libyan islamist terrorist group based in Manchester?

[Peter Pedant]

// GMP have had long enough to get the evidence sufficient to convince the Criminal Protection Service .....errr haven't they?//

erm them - keeping a low profile
BUT enter the Crown Prosecution Service...

In the immediate aftermath the police were VERY exercised he didnt act alone. The viddie I think shown the brother buying stuff later found in the bomb
and he is also said to have built the detonators...

used to be called accessory before the fact - and depending on his involvement can be indicted as a principal

and lets not forget retros
Criminal Protection Service in case anyone wonders - the CPS was ironically called this by the police from 2000 onwards

how did the manchester police know abedis brudda was in clink in Libya?
the family rang them up and told them
why has it taken so long? the libyans um wanted moolah and lots of it !
and there was some question if he were just piled onto a biplane from Libya whether on arrrival he could be lawfully prosecuted
( torture and rendition and all that)
note that he has already said he was tortured in front of the british police

[Peter Pedant]

// Why was the Government aiding and abetting these two islamists,//

no the family have been stridulous (*) about assisting the police. hence the call of 'the little bustard is in prison in Libya' on the simple grounds they dont want to be sent back. and foo ! I dont blame them !


(*) OK not stridulous, exiguous perhaps, OK pendulous,
assiduous I meant