Knife Crime Hits Highest Level Since Records Began

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/knife-crime-stabbings-london-gang-police-england-wales-uk-a8885486.html

[anotheoldgit]

spathiphyllum

/// However, I think that what i said, was perfectly fine. Not at one point did show any kind of discrimination, ///

You discriminated against me by suggesting that I was "ignorantly racist".

[Zacs-Master]

It's not discriminatory when it's true. You have no idea what racism is although you display it, or edge close to it in just about every thread / post.

[spathiphyllum]

Well.. i said "If you think".. Which means, this is what i think you're saying, if it's actually what you are saying, then i think this..

You haven't clarified if that's what you were implying or not yet.

Also.. We are the same race, this is not about age or sex, (same sex also) so no, i did not.

[andy-hughes]

I assume from the lack of a Question, AOG is inviting comment only - ?

My comment is that the increase is more likely fuelled by gang culture, than immigration.

[Zacs-Master]

Who knows AH. His level of input has been a characteristic mix of childish and stultifying.
When one asks for stats to back up facts and it's met with a request for stats on a question one has posted it makes the thread a joke.

[anotheoldgit]

spathiphyllum

/// So AOG with British Nationals - 73,711 - 89%
How then does that indicate crime is coming from outside our boarders? ///

Are you unaware that a large proportion of 'BRITISH NATIONALS' were immigrants who originally came to these shores and have been fortunate enough to have gained British citizenships. and as such are now classed as British nationals?

[Zacs-Master]

(and he finally gets to the point I was making at 14:34)

[spathiphyllum]

AOG then your statistics tell me nothing. They're either nationals, or immigrants.

[Spicerack]

You're the one who asked the stupid question, Zacs.
It was perfectly reasonable for YMB and AOG to ask you for statistics to back your nonsense up. Don't blame them because you can't.

[anotheoldgit]

Zacs-Master

/// It's not discriminatory when it's true. You have no idea what racism is although you display it, or edge close to it in just about every thread / post. ///

Only to those who play the race card at every possible mention of immigration, followers of a certain religion (although not truly a race) or anyone who happens to posses a dark skin.

[spathiphyllum]

Well i tired to give it ago. The info is out there..

[spathiphyllum]

Well you are a wee bit of a xenophobe AOG. Scared of too much immigration?

[Zacs-Master]

What's stupid about asking someone to back up a claim that mass immigration is to blame? AOG actually got round to my reasoning in his last post and, not for the first time, argued against himself.

Asking me to provide statistics on a question is dumb.

[Zacs-Master]

AOG, you play the race card by MENTIONING immigration! Every. Single. Time. Your 15:52 post does display a level of thinking i would hope someone would posses when discussing the subject. It's just a shame it came an hour and a quarter after my making the very point myself.

[anotheoldgit]

Zac-Master

/// When one asks for stats to back up facts and it's met with a request for stats ///

Why not? When one is asked for stats and one provides them, it is only courteous for others to provide them when they make a particular statement without the certain given stats.

[anotheoldgit]

spathiphyllum

/// AOG then your statistics tell me nothing. They're either nationals, or immigrants. ///

Well that doesn't surprise me at all.

But let me try and explain, although I think I am wasting my time with the likes of you.

The statics for foreign nationals are amongst those I supplied so at least those numbers alone would bring our crime rate down.

But you referred to British nationals so although I can not give the percentage of immigrants that have gained British nationality, I am sure it is fair number, so including those 'New British Nationals' who are in our prisons for crimes committed, I say this "adding them to the foreign nationals, they would bring the crime rate down even further".

And these are only the criminals who we hold in our prisons, there are many who still roam our streets free.

[anotheoldgit]

spathiphyllum

/// Well you are a wee bit of a xenophobe AOG. Scared of too much immigration? ///

Well there's a surprise the Race Card has been played and now out comes the Xenophobic card, why aren't they getting rid of their JOKER'S CARD?

[spathiphyllum]

I don't think you're a racist, i just think you walk a thin line.

[spathiphyllum]

but i do think that mass immigration makes you feel unsettled

[anotheoldgit]

Zacs-Master

I was simply replying to this question from spathiphyllum

/// So AOG with British Nationals - 73,711 - 89%
How then does that indicate crime is coming from outside our boarders? ///

And pointing out to him that many (now British Nationals) do originally come from 'outside our borders', due entirely to immigration in the first place.