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Should Obesity Be Classed As A Disease?
It has been suggested that obesity should be considered a disease.
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How would describing 'normal' fat people (i.e, ignoring those who are fat because of an underlying medical condition) as a victim of a disease help them? I suspect it will simply provide the fatties with an excuse for their size? "My obesity is a disease and therefore it's not my fault"
Should smokers be described have having a disease? If not, why not? I see no difference between a compulsion to smoke and a compulsion to shove food down the neck.
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How would describing 'normal' fat people (i.e, ignoring those who are fat because of an underlying medical condition) as a victim of a disease help them? I suspect it will simply provide the fatties with an excuse for their size? "My obesity is a disease and therefore it's not my fault"
Should smokers be described have having a disease? If not, why not? I see no difference between a compulsion to smoke and a compulsion to shove food down the neck.
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My view is that being overweight is a result of overeating, obesity is then at the far end of that condition. Among eating disorders is the compulsion to eat more than one burns and obesity is the extreme result of that disorder. Therefore if obesity itself is a disease then those who are obese suffer from two separate diseases, one the result of the other. A great diagnosis for those who want a generous explanation as to why they are ruining their health.
I am of an age where I never had access to any diagnosis and labelling of any of my traits, as with pretty much all of my generation, and therefore we suffer from a shortage of opportunity to generate attention/sympathy and/or labelling and treatment/support. We are the unnamed underprivileged - anything people say about us now is that we are simply old...........hey, there we have it, old age is a disease. Get the NHS, social services, etc. onto this, there is a veritable epidemic going on.
I am of an age where I never had access to any diagnosis and labelling of any of my traits, as with pretty much all of my generation, and therefore we suffer from a shortage of opportunity to generate attention/sympathy and/or labelling and treatment/support. We are the unnamed underprivileged - anything people say about us now is that we are simply old...........hey, there we have it, old age is a disease. Get the NHS, social services, etc. onto this, there is a veritable epidemic going on.
People are obese for different reason. And the word 'obese' is used too often. BMI is also useless!!
My sister is obese...and she admits it's out of greed. Her daughter is obese because she over fed her.
Maybe she does comfort eat....it's a catch 22. They join slimming world and basically pay to get weighed. We used to go to the gym together. I'd do a work out while she sat on the internet...and then she'd join me for a swim.
She paid gym membership to use the creche and get a couple of hours away from the kids....
My sister is obese...and she admits it's out of greed. Her daughter is obese because she over fed her.
Maybe she does comfort eat....it's a catch 22. They join slimming world and basically pay to get weighed. We used to go to the gym together. I'd do a work out while she sat on the internet...and then she'd join me for a swim.
She paid gym membership to use the creche and get a couple of hours away from the kids....
Every overweight person I know who is trying to lose weight regards food as a combination of the enemy and a treat. One friend cooks dinner without fat or salt – lean meat or fish, steamed vegetables and all that - and then for dessert produces cream cakes. Naughty but nice – she says. She's been on a diet for years and knows everything there is to know about nutrition and healthy eating. She's an expert.
//Well I am certainly not ignorant but was extremely overweight! //
Rockrose
I said ignorance in most cases. The inability to discern what food is healthy eating and what quantity to eat it.
Just got back from a All Inclusive Break in a hotel that served every cuisine you could imagine in help yourself buffet styled.
There was every salad and accompaniement to it.Loads of local fish and meat meals Rabbit etc.
There were loads of bottles of Olive Oil and Balsamic spread around the serving area. You made your own choice wether you wanted to dress your meal with oil or not.
There was the kiddies corner. No nutrition whatsoever but fibre in baked beans.
The Brit Kids were filling up their plates with piles of chips,burgers and chicken nuggets with copious amounts of ketchup and going back for more.
The Brit parents followed suit but had a few slices of bread and spread to assemble their chip butty starters. They ate that carp all day every day three times a day .
If that is what they do everyday at home than small wonder they looked like obscene blobs on a stick with the encouragement of their ignorant parents.
There was always a large selection of fresh cooked vegetables but you rarely saw the Brits tarry long in that section.
If you want top eat unhealthy fat in large quantities then expect what comes.
Most doctors of the old school have no time for obese patients and consider the condition very much self inflicted.
Rockrose
I said ignorance in most cases. The inability to discern what food is healthy eating and what quantity to eat it.
Just got back from a All Inclusive Break in a hotel that served every cuisine you could imagine in help yourself buffet styled.
There was every salad and accompaniement to it.Loads of local fish and meat meals Rabbit etc.
There were loads of bottles of Olive Oil and Balsamic spread around the serving area. You made your own choice wether you wanted to dress your meal with oil or not.
There was the kiddies corner. No nutrition whatsoever but fibre in baked beans.
The Brit Kids were filling up their plates with piles of chips,burgers and chicken nuggets with copious amounts of ketchup and going back for more.
The Brit parents followed suit but had a few slices of bread and spread to assemble their chip butty starters. They ate that carp all day every day three times a day .
If that is what they do everyday at home than small wonder they looked like obscene blobs on a stick with the encouragement of their ignorant parents.
There was always a large selection of fresh cooked vegetables but you rarely saw the Brits tarry long in that section.
If you want top eat unhealthy fat in large quantities then expect what comes.
Most doctors of the old school have no time for obese patients and consider the condition very much self inflicted.
Rockrose.Sorry about your past experience with your GP.Try again and point out to him/her the NHS viewpoint on obesity.
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