Family & Relationships2 mins ago
Time For A Re-Think Of The Equality Act?
When the Act was being written, do you think it was ever imagined that it would allow for absurdities such as shown in the link?
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In a nutshell a woman identifying as a man but still being in possession of a vagina (in other words a woman) was asked to leave the sauna because it is only licensed for gay men.
From the report “In a statement, Sailors Sauna said: "We are only licensed for men to use the venue.
"I understand that the gentleman was male, however his physical gender was different and as a customer had already stated that a female was using the venue, I explained that I would need to clarify with the council.”
‘He’ wasn’t male. She is female.
The Act allows this state of affairs to exist – but sometimes the law is wrong.
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In a nutshell a woman identifying as a man but still being in possession of a vagina (in other words a woman) was asked to leave the sauna because it is only licensed for gay men.
From the report “In a statement, Sailors Sauna said: "We are only licensed for men to use the venue.
"I understand that the gentleman was male, however his physical gender was different and as a customer had already stated that a female was using the venue, I explained that I would need to clarify with the council.”
‘He’ wasn’t male. She is female.
The Act allows this state of affairs to exist – but sometimes the law is wrong.
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Although the premises are licensed for gay men alone, the only definite identification of either of those two states is the 'maleness' of a person.
It was on this aspect that the customer failed.
Similarly, a person attending a 'woman-only' venue should not be able to do so whilst still attached to their 'appendage'.
It was on this aspect that the customer failed.
Similarly, a person attending a 'woman-only' venue should not be able to do so whilst still attached to their 'appendage'.
Maybe the solution is to do away all together with male/female/trans and just have penis or vagina allocation for toilets , changing rooms saunas etc. Then no one can argue what they define themselves as. Their Hardware may not correlate with their Software but if the rules change from what you feel inside to what equipment you have no one can argue....can they?
Male, Female, or intersex?
"We are only licensed for men to use the venue. "
What defines a man? A beard? An attitude? How someone feels? Strength? Muscles? a deep voice? or a penis?
What defines a woman, long hair? Breasts? A soft voice? well groomed facial hair(eye brows etc..)? Or a vagina / womb ?
So legally.... What defines a man?
I'm fed up of people playing with biology due to emotions or how they feel. It's codswallop. A Personality disorder does not make you physically a different sex.
"We are only licensed for men to use the venue. "
What defines a man? A beard? An attitude? How someone feels? Strength? Muscles? a deep voice? or a penis?
What defines a woman, long hair? Breasts? A soft voice? well groomed facial hair(eye brows etc..)? Or a vagina / womb ?
So legally.... What defines a man?
I'm fed up of people playing with biology due to emotions or how they feel. It's codswallop. A Personality disorder does not make you physically a different sex.
“A Personality disorder does not make you physically a different sex.”
Indeed not, spathi. But it can make you a different gender if you want it to, (and on alternate Fridays only or when there is a “R” in the month if you wish).
“Trans people’s right to use single-sex spaces that match their gender is already settled in law”
Also indeed. And there’s the problem. “If the law supposes that," said Mr. Bumble, the Beadle (when told that the law supposes his wife acts under his directions) "then the law is a ass — a idiot.”.
It’s a shame Mr Bumble is not around now. He could point out the bleeding obvious to stupid politicians who cannot see beyond the the ends of their noses where lie all sorts of unintended consequences arising from their ideology. The public has to endure these as a result of their ineptitude when they create messes such as this.
Indeed not, spathi. But it can make you a different gender if you want it to, (and on alternate Fridays only or when there is a “R” in the month if you wish).
“Trans people’s right to use single-sex spaces that match their gender is already settled in law”
Also indeed. And there’s the problem. “If the law supposes that," said Mr. Bumble, the Beadle (when told that the law supposes his wife acts under his directions) "then the law is a ass — a idiot.”.
It’s a shame Mr Bumble is not around now. He could point out the bleeding obvious to stupid politicians who cannot see beyond the the ends of their noses where lie all sorts of unintended consequences arising from their ideology. The public has to endure these as a result of their ineptitude when they create messes such as this.
//Similarly, a person attending a 'woman-only' venue should not be able to do so whilst still attached to their 'appendage'. //
that's fighting talk, jack...….
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that's fighting talk, jack...….
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// "I understand that the gentleman was male, however his physical gender was different and as a customer had already stated that a female was using the venue, I explained that I would need to clarify with the council //
I love this quote. It's basically saying he's a man, but he's a man with a vagina instead of a penis.
I love this quote. It's basically saying he's a man, but he's a man with a vagina instead of a penis.
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