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ChillDoubt | 16:05 Mon 08th Oct 2018 | News
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-45775309

Joking aside, will anyone on here give serious consideration to lifestyle choices/changes?
At the risk of sounding ‘holier than thou’ I couldn’t really do any more than I do(from someone who gets spoken to for throwing his banana skins/apple cores out of the window into an enclosed area) but am intrigued as to how many will give serious consideration.
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> The book of Revelation in the Bible predicts precisely this scenario
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> Well, for a start I don't believe scientists
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> A science and consensus based on deliberately false data
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> It's just part of the Globalist scheme

Where to begin ...
Oh go on Elipssis, you know you want to.
We have been on the planet for about two minutes in the grand scheme of things, actually 200,000 years (the Dinosaurs were here for 165 million years) and science has been practised for about two ticks, but our arrogance is such that when we scratch about with our gadgets and inventions anything that is indicated which appears negative always brings the reaction "we did that". The "we" is not new and goes way back - the cleverest people on Earth, who invented mathematics, logarithms, geometry, algebra, astronomy and much else, could calculate the weight of the Earth, the distance to the Moon and other bodies with remarkable accuracy, all agreed on one thing, that we were at the centre of the Universe - and they were wrong.
One of our near neighbours is a giant nuclear furnace of unimaginable temperatures which keeps us at just the right heat, but it's constantly spewing out massive explosions - solar flares up to 350,000 miles high, which some think may affect our weather.
Since the 1950's the UK has done a remarkable job in cleaning up the environment, particularly the rivers and estuaries, to the extent that many places would be unrecognizable to folks from that era. The countryside is probably more beautiful than it's ever been thanks to farmers and Government initiatives, but you won't hear about this or the Solar flare stuff because there's no money in it for the plethora of Quangos and Universities now wading about in our taxes care of Global Warming thank you. They should forget it and apply themselves to cleaning up the plastic from the Oceans.
Even Climate Scientists -- in fact, especially Climate Scientists -- aren't arrogant enough to claim that climate change is solely a human-driven phenomenon. What they *do* say is that it's a strong, and clearly identifiable, signal on top of all of the other contributing factors. Solar flares, changes in orbit, continental shifts -- you name it.

To be blunt, then, Robnorth's post is based on a fallacy.
I gave up smoking, heavily, about 15 years ago when I met my first pre-op assessment nurse but I am damned if I'll stop my Vindaloos and Phaals
Phaals? Oh my word! Asbestos bum!
I must say TTT has a point. The Chinese don't seem to give a damn. But with the World's largest population they are also the largest contributors to climate change.
Funnily enough the Chinese are also leading the way in certain Green energy investments, so ... it's a bit mixed. I dare say that they are mainly investing in green energy sources for cynical reasons, eg because it looks good on the world stage and so on.

Lately one also has to question the role of the US, which has taken something of a step backwards on Climate Change in the last couple of years. It will be interesting to see how, or indeed if, that attitude changes in light of this report.

Still, clearly TTT is right that the UK's actions will have little impact directly. The important part, though, is to be seen to be doing something, to take a lead. Maybe that will encourage other nations to follow.
It wont be long before the politicians are announcing that certain taxes have to rise to save the planet and I bet it will be the UK who will do it first and no other country will do anything, so as usual we will be screwing ourselves and everyone else will be just carrying on as before.
The reason the USA backed out is because self flagellation costs the economy and jobs. Whilst some in the West are hurting themselves the Indian and Chinese plough ahead with cheap energy and increase their economies at the expense of the hand wringing countries.

Whilst some climate change scientist now do say humans are not entirely to blame this has not really been the case in the past. Encouraged by funding to prove human climate change they spouted all sorts of horror stories, non of which have been proven and many debunked. It's a classic case of crying wolf (If humans do have anything to do with it).
I see this basically as confirmation that we're all screwed.

The kind of drastic changes required just won't happen.
Stopped at the link. Breitbart is just unadulterated right-wing propaganda and not worth wasting your, mine, or anyone else's time on.
Yassum Baas! Yer muss no!
Agree with Jim's last remark.
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Stopped at the link. Breitbart is just unadulterated right-wing propaganda and not worth wasting your, mine, or anyone else's time on.

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Isn't the link more about what Lindzen has to say?
You'd like to think so, but there's a reason that Breitbart picks who speaks for it, and it ain't because they care about the truth.
And what about what Lindzen has to say?
I've had a look at what he has to say from other sources and I'm generally of the opinion that he is misrepresenting the science. I'm not sure what else to add -- it's just a general repetition of arguments I've seen, and addressed, before.

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