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^^ lol
its an interesting idea, but why should the army get involved, they have enough on their backs, seeing as how old cases of soldiers in Ireland are being persecuted for doing their jobs way back then, they must wonder why they are in the armed forces.
I don;t know what the answer is, better policing, more money for more police on the beat. Aside from that not sure what can be done.
// in Ireland are being persecuted for doing their jobs way back then, they must wonder why they are in the armed forces. //

I think it shows the army has no role in street disorders
no matter what mistakes were made fifty years ago

oh lets try it again and see if it is less of a disaster than it was last time - is not a way forward I want to experiment with
ANOTHEOLDGIT, a few questions about your proposal.

What would be your definition of a gang?

Would membership alone be sufficient for punishment?

What punishment would you impose?
AOG - // /// It really *is* all about you isn't it, AOG? ///

Well since I produced this thread and since I am having to answer all the things thrown at me, then I would be right in saying yes. //

Such delusions of grandeur!

You didn't 'produce' this thread - you started it with an OP, as many others do all over the site every day, without the erroneous assumption that it gives them owner's rights to it.

Similarly, nothing is being 'thrown at you' - you are a seasoned debater on this site, more than able to give as good as you get, and the mantle of martyr really doesn't suit you - the regulars all know you far too well!!
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THECORBYLOON

/// ANOTHEOLDGIT, a few questions about your proposal. ///

/// What would be your definition of a gang? ///

A group of people joined together to attack and if necessarily kill members of other opposing groups, such as these know gangs.

https://cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/1/photos/585000/1299585.jpg

/// Would membership alone be sufficient for punishment? ///

Yes.

/// What punishment would you impose? ///

Imprisonment.


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andy-hughes

/// Such delusions of grandeur! ///

Well for starters let me address this item of rudeness, simply by responding in the only way you have to me, by saying that is rich coming from AB's master of delusions of grandeur.

/// You didn't 'produce' this thread - you started it with an OP, as many others do all over the site every day, without the erroneous assumption that it gives them owner's rights to it. ///

I did produce this thread, no matter what your interpretation of producing is and nowhere did I say that it gives me owner's rights to it.

My statement that it is ‘all about me’ was no boast, but a simple fact that some (especially the one that stated that it wasn't 'all about me') by their own doing had turned a perfectly legitimate thread to be 'all about me', I simply have no control over some's total obsession at turning every thread or post that I place up for discussion 'all about me'. In fact you, yourself has contributed to this childish game of ‘let’s have a go at AOG, I alone am not the only one that notices these childish games and they have pointed them out on numerous occasions.

/// Similarly, nothing is being 'thrown at you' - you are a seasoned debater on this site, more than able to give as good as you get, and the mantle of martyr really doesn't suit you - the regulars all know you far too well!! ///

I do not possess to be a martyr as you so rudely described me, and if the regulars that you refer to, including yourself were to address the subject up for debate rather than trying to divert away from the subject matter in your attempts to make them ‘ALL ABOUT ME’ then we could all go on and debate the subject matter in hand, no matter how upsetting it may be to those who would rather see such sensitive matters brushed under the carpet.

What chance does the ordinary Aber stand when most of the site’s moderators have an inbuilt dislike towards certain members, when they should be showing total impartiality?
Cracking the tight knit problem of gangs is a hard one and I'm sure if it was thought the Army could help then those in power would come up with a strategy.
AOG - // What chance does the ordinary Aber stand when most of the site’s moderators have an inbuilt dislike towards certain members, when they should be showing total impartiality? //

If you have any evidence for that assertion, I suggest you write to the Editor directly with your proof, and I am sure that if the Editor agrees with you, then action will be taken to address your issue.
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andy-hughes

The editor has only to read the posts that you, yourself address to me, to see that what your feelings towards me are.

But then it is not only me (just to address the "It's only about me" accusations) you are the same with others that I could name, who also dare to hold opinions different from yours.
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Mamyalynne

Thanks for addressing the subject matter Mam.

/// those in power would come up with a strategy. ///

That is the whole brunt of the problem, those in power refuse to come up with a strategy, with or without the Army, for some strange reason.

But I could hazard a guess.
// The editor has only to read the posts that you, yourself address to me, to see that what your feelings towards me are. //

um excuse me this is answerbank
not a dating site
New keyboard for me Peter ;-)
It could even be that the high heid yins have taken to skimming past the musings of AOGs arch enemy, much like so many others have learned to do.
// / The editor has only to read the posts that you, yourself address to me, to see that what your feelings towards me are. //

um excuse me this is answerbank
not a dating site //

AOG, I don't have 'feelings towards you' - I merely respond to your posts, as you do to mine.

The difference is, you are rather more thin skinned than I am!

But enough now, don't let 'your' thread get de-railed by your need to argue with me at every opportunity.

I have said previously, and others have agreed, that being in a 'gang' is not a criminal offence, so I remain interested in any methods you have of getting the police or indeed the army to carry out your suggestion - ?
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Hughes (now lets see who is thin skinned)

/// I have said previously, and others have agreed, that being in a 'gang' is not a criminal offence, ///

It is if that gang happens to be a certain Far-Right gang, who have never killed anyone, except for that one individual nutter who killed that MP. But then I don't even think that he was a member.
AOG - //Hughes (now lets see who is thin skinned)

/// I have said previously, and others have agreed, that being in a 'gang' is not a criminal offence, ///

It is if that gang happens to be a certain Far-Right gang, who have never killed anyone, except for that one individual nutter who killed that MP. But then I don't even think that he was a member. //

That is not comparable, and I am sure you know it.

You cannot compare a bunch of disaffected youths with too much time on their hands to an organised group with a political agenda.

Combined with your disrespect, this does rather point out that your argument is spent, and you are clutching at straws.
ANOTHEOLDGIT (or should folk call you GIT?) if, by saying, "a certain Far-Right gang" you mean National Action, why not use their name?
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andy-hughes (point proven)

/// You cannot compare a bunch of disaffected youths with too much time on their hands to an organised group with a political agenda. ///

"Disaffected youths with too much time on their hands"??????

These are proven drug dealing killers and oh yes they are certainly organised groups of them.

Whereas the others are also organised and may hold a political agenda but when has that been an offence?

They do not have a record of mass killings, yet the one's that you seem to be apologising for have.
AOG - // andy-hughes (point proven) //

I have no idea what you are talking about with this.


/// You cannot compare a bunch of disaffected youths with too much time on their hands to an organised group with a political agenda. ///

"Disaffected youths with too much time on their hands"??????

These are proven drug dealing killers and oh yes they are certainly organised groups of them.

Whereas the others are also organised and may hold a political agenda but when has that been an offence?

They do not have a record of mass killings, yet the one's that you seem to be apologising for have.

If they are 'proven drug dealers and killers', then they are in jail, surely?

// … yet the one's that you seem to be apologising for have. //


Apologising? I am not apologising for anyone - I think you are makng things up here.

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