If This Is How Much A Vice Chancellor Gets How Much Does The Chancellor Get?

[cassa333]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-42196462

£424,000 WOW I'd like just 1% of that let alone 1.1%

They could pay £30,000 each for 7 academic posts and still earn a huge amount of money.

[fiction-factory]

I think the Chancellors are just figure heads who probably get paid only a nominal amount. eg Manchester's is Peter Mandelson

[Mamyalynne]

The Chancellor, Helen Alexander died in August - I'm not sure they have yet appointed a new one.

[Jackdaw33]

As said, Chancellors are ceremonial and get paid little or nothing. The Vice-Chancellor is the guy in charge. Think Queen and Prime Minister and you get my drift.

[pastafreak]

30,000 for academic posts? I think they get substantially more than that.

[Buenchico]

^^^ I've just checked the vacancies list for my Alma Mater (Sheffield). Lecturers are paid between £40k and £48k, rising to £57k for senior lecturers.

There are no salary details available for chairs at Sheffield but Durham is currently seeking a Professor in Quantitative Social Psychology "on Grade 10 starting at £61,179 and going considerably higher based upon experience".

[Buenchico]

For comparison, school teachers on the most basic pay scale (in England & Wales, outside London) earn between £23k and £34k but if they get into the 'upper pay range' that's extended to £39k.

However those who qualify for 'leadership group salaries' earn between £40k and £109k, with the minimum for a new headteacher (in, say, a tiny primary school) being £45k (and even that salary range goes up to £59k with experience).

[vetuste_ennemi]

//There are no salary details available for chairs at Sheffield but Durham is currently seeking a Professor in Quantitative Social Psychology "on Grade 10 starting at £61,179 and going considerably higher based upon experience".//

What "Quantitative Social Psychology" might be (and how its levels of "experience" might be graded) is obviously a serious intellectual discipline in its own right.

How, I wonder, might the QSP expert increase the sum of human happiness?

[Buenchico]

^^^ Social psychology is the study of individual psychology in a social context. (e.g. the interplay between internal and external inhibitors as factors in preventing or reducing criminal behaviour).

The 'quantitative' bit seeks to use mathematical modelling to better understand and predict such behaviour patterns.

(That's not written just from a bit of googling. I've spent many, many hours in the University of Essex library, and online, researching social psychology).

[vetuste_ennemi]

//^^^ Social psychology is the study of individual psychology in a social context. (e.g. the interplay between internal and external inhibitors as factors in preventing or reducing criminal behaviour). //

Do you with your excellent research credentials have evidence that "criminal behaviour" has been reduced by the studies of the social psychologists, Buenchico?

(I'm not suggesting that practical outcomes are an important part of intellectual pursuit).

[Jackdaw33]

I get the feeling Chico's having us on. The only books in the library of Essex university are the ones you colour in.

[vetuste_ennemi]

One up to Chico, then, Jackdaw.

It's the way he tells them, isn't it?

[Buenchico]

An improved understanding of social psychology is already helping to prevent RE-offending, through treatment programmes for offenders with anger management problems, difficulties with relating to others and sexual offenders but there's still a big question mark over the ways that such interventions can be used BEFORE people offend in the first place.

[Buenchico]

>>> The only books in the library of Essex university are the ones you colour in

They're not the only ones, JD33, but they do help to calm one's nerves after using the Paternoster lifts ;-)

[vetuste_ennemi]

Do you actually believe your last post, Buenchico?

[vetuste_ennemi]

The 2:23 post.

[Buenchico]

^^^ Yes, because the statistics largely support it. (Some intervention programmes have been failures but by no means all of them).

[Jackdaw33]

I thought paternoster lifts went out 100 years ago. That one looks far too modern. I'm afraid I've never had the experience of riding one.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Something a bit Harvey Weinstein about the lift clip.

[david small]

There was one at Aston university in the late sixties. I don’t know if it’s still there or not.

[theprof]

There was a Paternoster lift in the chemistry department in Imperial College when I attended there many moons ago. Lots of fun but you had to be quick on your feet to get on the damn thing. There was always the joker around who would gobsmack younger students by doing a handstand just as the floor disappeared from view, only to appear seemingly upside down when the floor reappeared!

The Paternoster went up as far as the private rooms of Prof. Ernst Chain who was one of top biochemists of his time and played a huge role in the application of penicillin.