President Donald Trump Says He Believes Waterboarding Works

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38753000

Trump wants to bring back torture, despite Congress voting overwhelmingly to ban it recently. He also wants to expand America's use of keeping people in prison abroad, without charge or trial.

America....land of the free !

[ummmm]

Fighting fire with fire is fine unless it's an innocent person.

[anthro-nerd]

Ummmm I couldn't agree more!

[mikey4444]

Torture is just plain wrong.... period.... as our American cousins would say.

[andy-hughes]

It cannot be morally right to re-instate torture in this wsay.

President Trump's standard blowhard rhetoric states that 'they do worse ...' which is true.

But they are ignorant uneducated twelfth-century religious bigots - are we to join them in that mind-set?

President Trump apparently already is.

Why not let Islamists think that the West is morally bankrupt and desires their obliteration, when with President Trump's wishes, we can prove it with plenty of evidence.

[ToraToraTora]

the left love to take things out of context or deliberately mis read, hence they still think it said £350 a week would be spent on the NHS on the side of a bus last June!

[bookbinder]

This might remind the president what his country used to promise refugees:
https://www.scrapbook.com/poems/doc/3061.html

[ToraToraTora]

gawd help us we are not still moaning about percentages in a college vote system are we!

[hereIam]

He's a card isn't he ???

[mikey4444]

TTT.....(13:00)...what has that to do with this topic ?

We know you are one of Trumps few supporters here on AB, but do you also support bringing back torture ?

[ToraToraTora]

Mikey:"TTT.....(13:00)...what has that to do with this topic ?"
Cleverjo: 08:13 “I was in USA recently. Every taxi driver and barman I spoke to were incredulous that he became POTUS. I don't know who voted for him, but it wasn't the majority of Americans.”

"We know you are one of Trumps few supporters here on AB, but do you also support bringing back torture ? " - No but I am able to distinguish between stating something works and condoning it. Lot's of things work but no one is suggesting them. You lot really need to start looking at what Trump actually says rather than spitting out your organic Tibetan peace porridge half way through and then making it up afterwards.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Are there ANY circumstances under which you think torture would be justified, Mikey?

Same question to you, Peter Pedant.

[mikey4444]

TTT.....But do you support the use of torture.........a simple question, needing a simple answer !

[ToraToraTora]

As I said at 22:40 No I do not support torture.

[mikey4444]

TTT.............just noticed that you have attempted the answer this question already !

But the person you say you support, DOES support the use of torture, so where does that leave your continued support for him ?

Just a fair weather supporter perhaps ?

[ToraToraTora]

well mikey you do seem to struggle with the difference between supporting something and suggesting that it works. I know diesel cars work, but I don't support them, see? geddit? I do not know if Trump actually supports torture, he has not said so but even if he does I can still be a supporter without agreeing 100% with all his views, can't I? I supported TGL but disagreed with some of her views and policies, see?. Did you really support Saint Tony 100% in eveything he did? Really? I admire your devotion.

[mikey4444]

TTT....Trump has made it quite clear that he thinks torture works...."absolutely" was the word he used. And he does favour bringing it back into regular use, in foreign prisons, where he hopes to take people after the CIA have kidnapped them.

This is the person who you support.

You should make a better effort to keep up you know !

[ToraToraTora]

yeah, were has he said he supports it? were has he said he wants to bring it back into regular use? Really mikey read my post above again. I do not support 100% of what Trump is for but I support him overall. Do you support 100% of what Saint Tony Believes? including his war crimes? illegal wars? etc? in your book you must do since you are a Blair supporter, you can't have it both ways. You are the one that needs to keep up, can you not grasp the basic idea here (use my car analogy above again) you are peddling lies about Trump, he has not condoned, backed or said he's going to implement torture. Show me where he as or stop trotting out the same drivel over and over.

[vortex]

Mikey4444 - even if DT was proposing to bring back torture, is he not meant to be the master of u-turns? In which case, there's little to worry about is there not?

I have noticed you have been a leading light on declaring DT's u-turns so why not wait and see?

[Togo]

//But they are ignorant uneducated twelfth-century religious bigots//

How very dare you? They are officially vibrant and exciting cultural additions to our grey, staid, and moribund existence. To be welcomed as a vital resource in our "development".

[dieseldick]

i would do worse than water boarding on islamic terrorists.

much worse