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In other words, we have to be selective in the people we accept. This seems to be denied to us at the moment.
simple divebuddy- it's because some posters only focus on about crimes by migrants/black people. That suggests to me the posters are less concerned about crimes by white people/non-immigrant. All crimes are dreadful and we should feel equally sorry for the victims and contempt for the perpetrators regardless of their colour/status.
Although your answer was a non-sequitur as it does not show I am apologising for (did you mean excusing?) immigrants' crimes.
FF - there are clearly people on here who do not believe that there is an immigration crisis and that ceetain countries,including the UK, should be taking in more.

You state the valuable contribution of some migrants. I do not dispute that but there are a huge number who are making little or no attempt to contribute and integrate. Many are not capable of employment and are not attempting to learn a new language.

Should countries accept more and more people such as these?
But surely the people we want to accept would apply through the legal measures...

I can't imagine doctors and nurses putting their families in dingy's...
//Should countries accept more and more people such as these? //

If I may add to that .... and if so, why?

True, we have criminals and wasters of our own but those we're stuck with. Adding to that burden is of no benefit to us whatsoever.
>Should countries accept more and more people such as these?
That should be 100% up to them once we are no longer part of the EU. I don't think we should accept more in the UK unless they have been fully vetted and can make an important contribution. As an aside I think we should restrict the use of the burka here just as they do in France- it is another massive barrier to integration.
ummm- I have not suggested/implied those that come in dinghys are doctors and nurses. There is a crisis that Europe is failing to deal with - we should not allow these boats to get anywhere near Europe and our navy should not be helping. I've said that before. I've said here that there is an immigration crisis In Europe, Calais and to a lesser extent here. I only mentioned doctors to show that not every immigrant is part of the crisis. the crisis is illegal immigration, not immigration per se.
"AP needs to get over his visceral hatred of AOG"
Please don't manipulate this situation JD, I do not "hate" AOG as I have mentioned numerous times, I just hate the fact that 90% of his posts are about racial/cultural hatred and condemnation.
I take your silence as an acceptance, divebuddy, that you cannot after all justify your statement that I always make "some sort of apology for immigrants, no matter how awful what they do.
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fiction-factory

/// simple divebuddy- it's because some posters only focus on about crimes by migrants/black people. That suggests to me the posters are less concerned about crimes by white people/non-immigrant. ///

Ah! at last all is becoming clear, colour raises it's ugly head once again.

We are discussing the crimes of migrants coming from the continent of Africa and the Middle East, I apologise that for this reason we cannot change the fact that these people happen not to be white skinned.

But in the interests of diversity, I assure you that in the unlikelihood that some among them might happen to be white and have committed such crimes, I am sure that they will be reported on by the press, and I will then offer those reports up for debate as per usual.

This isn't about colour - it's about culture.
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Ah! don't spoil it for them naomi24. :0)
Simply stating a fact. Harping on about colour detracts from the issue.
Harping on about colour detracts from the issue.

Ha ha ha...
sp1814, not with you. Am I mistaken?
the words "racial" and "cultural" are not interchangeable, necessarily. the UK is multiracial, but not multicultural. if the UK was multicultural, the law would permit honour killings, FGM, child marriage, etc, and would have laws and consequent punshment for apostacy, blasphemy, etc etc.
mushroom; Indeed;

'A Month of Islam and Multiculturalism in Britain: August 2016
by Soeren Kern
September 19, 2016 at 5:30 am

◾"To use the term 'honor killing' when describing the murder of a family member -- overwhelmingly females -- due to the perpetrators' belief that they have brought 'shame' on a family normalizes murder for cultural reasons and sets it apart from other killings when there should be no distinction." — Jane Collins, MEP, UK Independence Party.


◾Voter fraud has been deliberately overlooked in Muslim communities because of "political correctness," according to Sir Eric Pickles, author of a government report on voter fraud.


◾"Not only should we raise the flag, but everybody in the Muslim community should have to pledge loyalty to Britain in schools. There is no conflict between being a Muslim and a Briton." — Khalil Yousuf, spokesman for the Ahmadiyya Muslim community.


◾Only a tiny proportion -- between five and ten percent -- of the people whose asylum applications are denied are actually deported, according to a British asylum judge, quoted in the Daily Mail.


◾Police in Telford -- dubbed the child sex capital of Britain -- were accused of covering up allegations that hundreds of children in the town were sexually exploited by Pakistani sex gangs.'

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mushroom25

/// if the UK was multicultural, the law would permit honour killings, FGM, child marriage, etc, and would have laws and consequent punishment for apostasy, blasphemy, etc etc. ///

To say nothing of the caste system amongst those from India.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mn9sFBlLG6U/maxresdefault.jpg
"Ah! at last all is becoming clear, colour raises it's ugly head once again".

(raises *it is* ugly head?)

It raises its (note no apostrophe) in virtually every post you make AOG.

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