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//Collective narcissism may have played a role too// //We also thought we’d benefit economically from our popularity, much like the US did in preceding centuries// //Were we naive? Perhaps. Most of the refugees who stayed at our home were men in their 20s. They didn’t talk much. Some never even said “thank you”. One seemed to feel genuinely sorry...
09:57 Fri 01st Apr 2016
Now, all of a sudden, millions dreamt of coming here – and we felt flattered. //The refugees made us feel good about ourselves.//
That sums up virtue signalling for you. Seen enough of that recently on AB .
Now the complexities and problems Frau Merkel has invited on her people now come to light. How very short sighted.
That sums up virtue signalling for you. Seen enough of that recently on AB .
Now the complexities and problems Frau Merkel has invited on her people now come to light. How very short sighted.
jno
It depends who created the poisonous atmosphere in the first place!!
//some never even said “thank you”. One seemed to feel genuinely sorry for us because we have three daughters and no sons. Another asked, apropos of nothing, whether my wife was “a Jewish girl”. //
As a welcoming host I would feel quite insulted if no thanks were offered or quizzed if my wife was Jewish.
Either foolish or naive I think this host took a chance with three daughters although it didn't say if they lived with their parents.
It depends who created the poisonous atmosphere in the first place!!
//some never even said “thank you”. One seemed to feel genuinely sorry for us because we have three daughters and no sons. Another asked, apropos of nothing, whether my wife was “a Jewish girl”. //
As a welcoming host I would feel quite insulted if no thanks were offered or quizzed if my wife was Jewish.
Either foolish or naive I think this host took a chance with three daughters although it didn't say if they lived with their parents.
//Collective narcissism may have played a role too//
//We also thought we’d benefit economically from our popularity, much like the US did in preceding centuries//
//Were we naive? Perhaps. Most of the refugees who stayed at our home were men in their 20s. They didn’t talk much. Some never even said “thank you”. One seemed to feel genuinely sorry for us because we have three daughters and no sons. Another asked, apropos of nothing, whether my wife was “a Jewish girl”. We tried not to read too much into these experiences, limited as they were. But they did suggest that the relationship between Germans and refugees would not be as easy and straightforward as the enthusiasts had suggested.//
//Last month the head of the migration office admitted that up to 400,000 people had not applied for asylum. Which means we have no idea who they are or where they are from. It wasn’t supposed to happen like that//
//But the spirit of the Willkommenskultur – taking in people randomly, exuberantly, without getting to know them and establishing a meaningful relationship – doesn’t feel right any more.//
But we get criticised and castigated if we voice any of these opinions. The 3 stages of truth.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Arthur Schopenhauer.
//We also thought we’d benefit economically from our popularity, much like the US did in preceding centuries//
//Were we naive? Perhaps. Most of the refugees who stayed at our home were men in their 20s. They didn’t talk much. Some never even said “thank you”. One seemed to feel genuinely sorry for us because we have three daughters and no sons. Another asked, apropos of nothing, whether my wife was “a Jewish girl”. We tried not to read too much into these experiences, limited as they were. But they did suggest that the relationship between Germans and refugees would not be as easy and straightforward as the enthusiasts had suggested.//
//Last month the head of the migration office admitted that up to 400,000 people had not applied for asylum. Which means we have no idea who they are or where they are from. It wasn’t supposed to happen like that//
//But the spirit of the Willkommenskultur – taking in people randomly, exuberantly, without getting to know them and establishing a meaningful relationship – doesn’t feel right any more.//
But we get criticised and castigated if we voice any of these opinions. The 3 stages of truth.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Arthur Schopenhauer.
+thoughtful piece from the graundiad
usual they-will-kill-you-in your-beds comments from the usual crowd
I have to say I gave up giving beds to strangers ( hitch hikers, teenagers ) overnight before 1970 .... they clear the place - well only one has to clear the place and you think "oo-er wont do that again ! "
usual they-will-kill-you-in your-beds comments from the usual crowd
I have to say I gave up giving beds to strangers ( hitch hikers, teenagers ) overnight before 1970 .... they clear the place - well only one has to clear the place and you think "oo-er wont do that again ! "
oh and if anyone wonders what virtue-signalling is,
it appears to be a long new word for 'pi' ( short for pious - with similar connotations )
and there is a long piece in the Grauniad - where did it come from, where will it go to - here:
http://
it appears to be a long new word for 'pi' ( short for pious - with similar connotations )
and there is a long piece in the Grauniad - where did it come from, where will it go to - here:
http://
jno
"The poisonous atmosphere has been fuelled by right wing hatemongers"? Glad to see this recognised at last...
I think the fuel for the right wing hatemongers may have been manifested from the attitude of the visitors. I can't say I have witnessed any of the serious crimes but I have witnessed plenty of shoplifting and bike lifting which seem to be the norm. One refugee on being questioned on what was in his pockets headed for the door and just before he went out of the door threw a mango at the cashier, luckily just missing her.
By and large they do not seem to be very grateful.
"The poisonous atmosphere has been fuelled by right wing hatemongers"? Glad to see this recognised at last...
I think the fuel for the right wing hatemongers may have been manifested from the attitude of the visitors. I can't say I have witnessed any of the serious crimes but I have witnessed plenty of shoplifting and bike lifting which seem to be the norm. One refugee on being questioned on what was in his pockets headed for the door and just before he went out of the door threw a mango at the cashier, luckily just missing her.
By and large they do not seem to be very grateful.
mushroom25
it's the norm amongst the indigenous too. the WM police consider shoplifting to be a civil matter.
The indigenous people have not been welcomed to safety from a life of total misery. A little gratitude would be nice. Even if they are not grateful they should at least try to be law abiding ... I think that would help their situation rather than hinder it?
it's the norm amongst the indigenous too. the WM police consider shoplifting to be a civil matter.
The indigenous people have not been welcomed to safety from a life of total misery. A little gratitude would be nice. Even if they are not grateful they should at least try to be law abiding ... I think that would help their situation rather than hinder it?
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