Snouts In The Trough Again

[Canary42]

Why the NHS is failing.

Directors 6% rise

Nurses 1% rise

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/13902296.GWH_directors_pocket_up_to_6__rise_as_nurses_face_1__pay_cap/?ref=eb

[Hypognosis]

@Canary42

How many, with the right talents, are waiting in the wings, for their chance at the top job? Offer 1%, wait for the snout to naff off to the states, like they threatened then there will be a string of promotion parties, all the way down the management chain *and* a dolite gets to apply for a job. Win-win!

[Old_Geezer]

6% is greater than inflation but maybe it's a case of compensating for lower than inflation rises over the last few years ? That said no one can justify a demand for £182,000, or £113,500 or even £107,000 pa. But that's the Capitalist system for you. Those with the power and powerful friends look after their own and their own interests, and others are told they should have done the same (but woe betide them if they try to by industrial action).

1% seems a bit rough but the problem there I suspect is one can import cheap labour from anywhere in the world and there is no need to train UK nurses when you can attract them from countries that need them for themselves. Until there is an incentive to do what is right for the country what can you expect ?

[Sqad]

O_G

\\\That said no one can justify a demand for £182,000, or £113,500 or even £107,000 pa. But that's the Capitalist system for you. \\\

I thought that the NHS was in the Public sector.......nothing to do with Capitalism.

[retrocop]

Last year my wife managed to drive through snow and get to her hospital car park. She still is a SRN Nurse with 40 years experience with the NHS. She has to pay £200 p.a. for a parking bay and a yearly sum to retain her Nursing Council Registration Pin number ( Licence to work).
As it was cold and snowing she wore a navy blue cardigan over her uniform as she entered the hospital in the early hours.
She was joined in the lift by a Trust Director who had pitched up in his NHS supplied Rover and parked in his designated free parking bay.
Compared to this useless bean counter who couldn't tie a bandage my wife and her colleagues get a pittance.
Matrons and sisters once did the job of these expensive,unecessary quangos.
Indeed my wife was offered promotion to Sister because her dept was short of one and she filled in for the job. Watching the pennies ,ordering stock,maintaining records etc etc.
It is not so much more money that is needed in the NHS. It is about the the proper use of how it is used by those who know. Certainy more medical staff needed and they cost money but that would be offset by money grubbing bean counters being disposed with . Too much reliance on expensive Agency nurses as well.

[Canary42]

Get up to date Sqad - a lot of the NHS is now in private hands.

[tonyav]

Expensive.
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2015/08/26/temporary-staff-cost-walsall-manor-hospital-1-46m-in-just-one-month/

[Old_Geezer]

Public or commercial; they still have to attract from the same pool of directors, or doctors for that matter. The market dictates the necessities and if left to it's own devices this sort of thing occurs. Personal leverage is used to feather own's own nest.

[Sqad]

Canary..

\\\\Get up to date Sqad - a lot of the NHS is now in private hands.\\\

Maybe, but not the executives and directors of Trusts who are still paid out of the "Public Pot"........the tax payer.

O_G......

\\\ Personal leverage is used to feather own's own nest.\\\

True, very true and that "leverage" has been supported for over half a century, by the Unions particularly the BMA.

[Old_Geezer]

True. This is human nature. Which is why society should frame the rules with care to ensure equity and limits on differentials if it wants to claim it is on the moral high ground.

[tonyav]

Hiya sqad, have a read of this. How did this guy get a job here ?.
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/local-news/2015/10/29/polish-doctors-bad-english-means-he-cant-work-alone/

[Sqad]

Hi! Tony........I have no idea what is happening to the NHS....well, I have but I will keep it to myself ;-)
I have no idea how that guy got a job in the NHS, but he was only a registrar, although he was employed for a short time at the John Radcliffe.
I knew two Polish Drs, a GP and Neurosurgical Registrar and both were excellent doctors and spoke good English. In fact during WW2, the Polish School of Medicine was based in Edinburgh for the education of Polish students.

In the 50's and 60's, the "hot topic" surrounding Gynaecological and Obstetric junior staff from the African Sub continent who could not be understood by the patients.

The NHS will have to change....but who will have the *** to instigate this,not The Tories and certainly not Labour.

[tonyav]

Thanks sqad. I find it strange that he ( the Polish doctor ) even got past the interview stage if there was one.

[Baldric]

Tony, similar to the one I met a while back. I had a Minor Op. back in August, in for 3 days, then home with no probs.
Short time later, wound started bleeding, no obvious reason, drove myself into Minor Injuries Unit about 2030 hrs, short wait before being seen by a young Black Doctor, who while I'd been waiting I had heard him being wished Good Luck on his first shift by a colleague. His English was excellent but he was unsure of the problem and wanted to call in someone Senior to make a decision. By 2200 there were 4 patients lined up in cubicles waiting for the Man.
The man turned up about 0200, he was the spitting image of Idi Amin, he started at the end of the row with the Doc I'd seen earlier translating for him, he had some English but not a lot. The end curtains of my cubicle were open and reflected in the window I could see the others, he came out of 1 went straight into 2 wearing the same Blue Gloves he used in 1, when he finished in 2 he came to me in 3 same gloves which he'd now used on two patients and handled the curtains which everyone touches. He was very surprised when I physically stopped him touching my wound while getting his mate to explain the problem, he then stomped off and I believe went home without even seeing the guy in 4. I know 3 of us put in written complaints but have yet to hear anything other than 'we're looking into it'

[tonyav]

WOW Baldric, Bad Bad Bad.