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redvanman | 10:44 Mon 14th Sep 2015 | News
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This devout muslim footballer farthering a child out side of his marriage makes a joke of is islam religion
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Catholics having abortions , Christians committing murder or rape...it happens.
I don't think that it reflects on any religion rather of the frailty, if you loke , of man.

No big deal.
I think the examples Sqad has given just shows the attitude of people within all religions, they abide by the rules until it suits them to ignore them.
It's hardly a reflection on the religion when one acolyte transgresses their creed.
Don't forget Muslim men may have up to four wives so fidelity to one isn't a requirement. Maybe his wooing went a bit too far. ;o)
does it make a joke of atheism if an atheist does this? Sqad is correct.
Atheism isn't a 'club'. There are no rules.
Lucky child. He/she is going to get some lovely birthday cakes.
I'd agree with Sqad on this - you can't condemn an entire religious ethos on the basis of the behaviour of one transgressor.

Hitler believed in a 'divine presence' - so on the basis of your logic redvanman, Christianity is well out of line!
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thy want to impose islam on this country JOKE
redvanman - "thy want to impose islam on this country JOKE"

Is it a joke that 'they' want to impose Islam on this country - or do you find the idea that 'they' wish to do this?

For the record, Muslims do not wish to impose Islam on this country - extremist Muslims do, but they are a very small minority.
Oh yes they do.
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\\\\For the record, Muslims do not wish to impose Islam on this country - extremist Muslims do, but they are a very small minority.\\

mmmm! I wonder. Extremists want to do it by force, but Islamic pacifists would love to see an Islamic state in the UK, probably, by any means.

What evidence do i have?

Just a "gut feeling" to the spread of Islam in the UK over the past half century,from a standing start of a couple of thousand Muslims in the 50's to roughly 2 million Muslims some 60 years later.
I doubt it, Sqad - my moderate Muslim friends and neighbours would be horrified at the idea of wearing hijab and abjuring alcohol.
Not sure Yaya wants to impose much on the country beyond wishing him a happy birthday.
Have you got a link please redvanman?
Sqad - //\\\For the record, Muslims do not wish to impose Islam on this country - extremist Muslims do, but they are a very small minority.\\

mmmm! I wonder. Extremists want to do it by force, but Islamic pacifists would love to see an Islamic state in the UK, probably, by any means.

What evidence do i have?

Just a "gut feeling" to the spread of Islam in the UK over the past half century,from a standing start of a couple of thousand Muslims in the 50's to roughly 2 million Muslims some 60 years later.//

I think the notion that Muslims wish to take over the West is a widely held belief - it is often a topic of hot debate on this Section.

But I wonder if it is a perception, rather than a fact?

I believe that it is a perception, and one that is developed and fed by the right-wing media in the UK, which is rapidly following its American counterpart in discovering that 'scaremongering' sells papers and develops talking points.

But that makes it a notion, rather than a fact - and apart from an acknowledged increase in population, I don't believe that the notion is really reflected in fact.

If you'd have told Americans at the turn of the nineteenth century that they were being 'taken over' by the vast swathes of Italian, or Irish, or Dutch immigrants flooding into their country, they might have wondered - but history shows us that such a 'takeover' never took place.

I believe that part of the issue stems from the fact that Muslims are far more easily identified here - their skin colour, language, dress code and customs make them stand apart from the indigenous population, but I do not believe that these differences indicate a desire to subjugate their adopted country.

But as I said - fear sells papers.
andy-hughes, //For the record, Muslims do not wish to impose Islam on this country//

If that's a matter of record, I'd like to see the record.
Naomi - "andy-hughes, //For the record, Muslims do not wish to impose Islam on this country//

If that's a matter of record, I'd like to see the record."

It's a figure of speech - and I am sure you know that.
The reason Islam is called the religion of peace(larf) is they believe the world will be peaceful when it's totally Muslim.
(although that idea isn't working out too well in Muslim countries)
Svejk - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_of_Peace

Just so you know what you are talking about - and not just regurgitating the pat phrases that people like George Bush used to trot out in a (failed) effort to sound like a caring human being.

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