In Light Of The Number Of Scottish Mps In Westminster, Is It Now Time That England Had It's Own Parliament, Or Would That Be Too 'nationalistic' Of Us?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/generalelection/nicola-sturgeon-welcomes-in-56-new-snp-mps-it-simply-cannot-be-business-as-usual-10238292.html

[jim360]

If the SNP victory means anything, it has to include the failure of any of the three main parties north of the border. Separating the two parliaments seems like running away from this problem rather than fixing it.

[ToraToraTora]

No, last thing we need is another layer of snouts in the trough. We should give Scotland it's independence end of.

[anotheoldgit]

jim360

Isn't that what the other three countries of the UK have done, why should England be any different?

[anneasquith]

if England/wales/northern Ireland wish independence that is their decision. and nothing to do with Scottish people.

[THECORBYLOON]

Odd how during the years without Direct Rule there was not a call for an English Parliament or English votes for English laws when Ulster MPS were involved...

[anotheoldgit]

ToraToraTora

/// No, last thing we need is another layer of snouts in the trough. We should give Scotland it's independence end of. ///

No need for 'another layer of snouts in the trough' we have enough English MPs, they could be separated from the rest on occasions when 'English' matters need debating.

[THECORBYLOON]

ANOTHEOLDIT, Westminster is the UK Parliament so where would the English Parliament sit?

[baza]

I think now is time for English problems to be debated by English MP's, just how it would work is another matter.

[Svejk]

I'd rather shut down the Welsh Assembly and whatever they waste money on in Scotland. If only it were in my power.

[Gromit]

The MPs were always Scottish ones. Just that they are from a different party this time.

Though I think we need less Government, not more, I support a devolved English Parliament for matters that pertain to English matters.

[anneasquith]

svejk............. you missed out NI what you going to do with them ?

[Svejk]

Not sure about NI. I don't think Stormont was created by T. Bliar for Machiavellian & ideological reasons. I'll look into it before I close it down, anne.

[Gromit]

There would have to be separate EMPs and MPs(UK). Running England is not a part time job.

The Lords could be booted out and the English Parliament be there.

[Khandro]

The SNP needed just 25,000 votes to gain one seat, and thereby achieve 56 seats and a disproportionate slice of power in Westminster, whereas nearly 4 MILLION ! votes translated as only one seat for UKIP.
How fair is that?

[Gromit]

Khandro,

The 59 Constituencies in Scotland are about the same size as the ones in England. UKIP voters are very widely dispersed so are unlikely to come first in a seat. Also, the SNP only contested 59 seats not 650, so of course their vote share will be at least a tenth of UKIPs.

The public have had a referendum on it and the public voted for first past the post. So they deserve what get.


Constituency sizes by UK Country:

The typical size of constituencies differs between parts of the UK. The Office for National Statistics gives the median total parliamentary electorate across constituencies of about 72,400 in England, 69,000 in Scotland, 66,800 in Northern Ireland and 56,800 in Wales.

[douglas9401]

'The English' could have their own parliament if they wanted it.
It seems that 'The English' want it to appear from fresh air, fully formed and ready to go. There's just nobody willing to peel themselves off the couch, adjust their joggers and vest and get on with it.
So much easier to whinge, whine and look with covetous eyes at what your neighbour has cos someone could be bothered to give it a go and persevere with the idea.
It'll never happen if everybody stares slack-jawed at the idiot box and waits for somebody else to do it.

[jno]

Khandro, which way did you vote in the referendum?

[Khandro]

jno; //Khandro, which way did you vote in the referendum?// I didn't, but I voted (as an expat.) for UKIP this time, along with nearly 4 million others, - which is almost the same total amount of voters in Scotland who achieved 56 seats and UKIP only one. I maintain this clearly this isn't democracy.

[THECORBYLOON]

There was a referendum in 2011 about the Alternative Vote and folk voted two to one against it. I wonder if those who are demanding a change are the same ones complaining about any call for a second Scottish independence referendum?

[mushroom25]

//The Lords could be booted out and the English Parliament be there. //

the lords may well not represent good government (hereditary membership, established church, etc) and reform may well have merit. but would abolishment with nothing to replace it be a good idea? can the state be governed solely by one chamber?