Is Soccer Institutionally Racist?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31514168
Another embarassment!

[naomi24]

Peter Pedant, I didn’t suggest it is the answer by itself. Football is not institutionally racist, but unfortunately it attracts among its supporters a minority culture – the culture that views rugby supporters as ‘toffs’. As Mikey says, it’s a matter of education because basically they’re idiots and I don’t believe their attitude represents football supporters as a whole. I agree with Snafu. I doubt they would have let a white person with an Arsenal shirt on either.

[Gromit]

It is not really football that is racist. Society has a small element that is racist. So among any football crowd there is bound to be some racists.

It is less of a problem in Rugby because attendances at Rugby matches are about a tenth of those of Football matches. That is why if there is any trouble, it tends to be at the bigger international matches and not at club level. Though less of a problem, there are racists who watch Rugby. Here is an example from a few weeks ago...

// The Rugby Football Union has launched an investigation into alleged homophobic and racial abuse of the Welsh referee Nigel Owens by a group of England supporters during the defeat by New Zealand at Twickenham last Saturday. //

[bazwillrun]

"and that means education and more education. "

oh you mean social engineering...i get it

[youngmafbog]

Racism will never go away whilst you have things like 'Black Actor Awards' or any special group setup for a particular ethnicity since it appears total hypocrisy.

Education, or social engineering wont work on it's own either. It needs total integration and acceptance of all and that will only happen with the passage of time.

[Svejk]

Anything that binds youngish lads together tends to lead to boisterous behaviour and gang mentality. Around here, thugby boys have always been particularly infamous.

[PankySmooch]

From the reactions on Talksport radio this morning I thought they'd thrown the bloke under the train.

Italian and Turkish fans are a lot worse than English fans but nothing happens to them.

[ummmm]

How do you know nothing happens to them?

[-Talbot-]

No.

All that video shows is some cockney missheads letting there mouths run away with them (nothing unusual there) the chant was most probably directed at anyone French no matter what their colour.

The black fellow was the only one with any balls to try and get on the tube.

[Just-Jude]

Their hero is John Terry...the biggest racist of them all.

[sp1814]

TTT

I don't think football is institutionally racist any more.

However, some people are willing to excuse this behaviour and shift the blame elsewhere, when the blame should be placed squarely on the men in the carriage.

The so-called 'Black Actor' awards (God only knows what they are - never heard of them myself) have nothing to do with this thuggish behaviour, because knuckle-draggers like these have existed for decades.

[PankySmooch]

Ummmm, they've been stabbing and attacking English fans for years as well as racially abusing players and might get a few thousand euro fine.

Anything involving English fans like those chavvy Chelsea idiots last night and everyone wants to get involved.

Jude apparently he's not racist according to the courts

[ummmm]

I know that the English fans are not the worst hooligans about, they are just portrayed to be.

[mikey4444]

I think that there is a simpler answer to all this. Football attracts these kind of racists because its an environment that they thrive in. Large groups of semi-educated, badly brought up, boozed-up louts. Natural breeding ground if you ask me !

[ummmm]

You'd be surprised, Mikey. Plenty of educated football thugs about.

[-Talbot-]

As opposed to an internet forum that attracts people who think they are so well educated they can evaluate the education of others.

[trt]

Racism:

Is never ever going to go away, at least in our lifetime!

[melv16]

The only organization the football thugs are afraid of in Sheffield are the South Yorkshire police. They went in heavy handed a few years ago, cracked a few skulls, kicked some groins and seemed to sort out the hooligans:)

[-Talbot-]

Let me see your 'proven facts' Jordyboy.