How Sad, Never Mind.

[Svejk]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk-terror-fears-my-jihadist-son-returned-mentally-scarred--now-he-is-being-ignored-9986669.html

[BlackadderV]

Excuse me if I sound just a tad callous, but if it comes to a choice between this crackpot and his equally nutty mother (note; both converted to Islam (RoP) just two years ago) and the young men returning from Afghanistan and Iraq, both mentally and physically scarred, I know where I would want my money to go.

[waterboatman]

The first world war is a prime example. young men were encouraged to join up, just as there youngsters are now, thinking they will go and see the glamour and glory of war. Only to find the horror and disillusionment that it is in reality. They were welcomed back. Still didn't get a lot of help though. Thankfully, it's different now.

[lady-janine]

how do you tell the difference between the truly repentant and those determined to cause mayhem when they get back?

do they really believe that the jihadists they go to join have no intention of hurting people of another faith? there is evidence enough to say otherwise - that they are just murderous thugs and have no regard for others - male or female, young or old.

[ummmm]

People are missing the point. He's back. I would rather he was rehabilitated than not.

We don't live in an ideal world.

[NoMercy]

What kind of a deterrent is it to welcome these people back.

I'm afraid I'm all for a zero tolerance policy.

It's a shame there isn't a remote and uninhabited island somewhere that we could dump these animals on.

[waterboatman]

Quite right LJ. It's not rocket science to sort out one from t'other.

[BlackadderV]

Is it different now, though? One hears tales of ex-servicemen living on the streets. Nothing short of a national scandal in my book.

[waterboatman]

All wars are much the same, it's just the cause that differs.

[waterboatman]

Quite right blackie.

[Sqad]

Disenchanted jihadists............how does one tell a disenchanted Jihadists from a covert terrorist?.
Indeed a difficult problem.
Do not allow them back into this country.

[waterboatman]

They should certainly go through rehab and be under observance for a period of time.

[NoMercy]

Are we talking Menorca or UK, Sqad? ;)

[BlackadderV]

Quite right. Send them to the Balearics where Sqad, for a modest fee, will remove their Balearics. I suppose it's much the same as taking tonsils out, except the patient is lying the other way round. No need to waste money on anaesthesia either.

[Sqad]

LOL.

[Svejk]

The recent 'French' and 'Belgian' terrorists were returned Jihadists. I doubt they announced their murderous intentions to anyone. (outside the muslim community)

[douglas9401]

Surely there's an out reach programme run by moderate, law abiding persons of faith at his local mosque.
They will help with a return to civilised society in an orderly way while showing him the error of his ways vis a vis the religion of peace, cartoons, naming stuffed toys and general murderous behaviour.

[youngmafbog]

And it can all be traced back to right-on liberalism. All of thus was predicted but we were shouted down as racists.

[tamaris]

Agree with NoMercy, well said

[BlackadderV]

Perhaps there is a case for adopting Sharia law after all. Cut off their hands and give them hooks; bit more tricky to fire a gun that way.

[jim360]

In many cases the solution being proposed is basically the same as the problem in the first place. Young people turning to Jihad are doing so in part because they already feel disconnected from society. Emphasising that disconnect further not only means that those who made a mistake are excluded from society, but also means that the attitude of "us and them" prevails... and so more young people will end up joining the Jihadist movements.

No doubt some of these people will never be disillusioned really. Those who are need sympathy and help, and perhaps even will help provide support for those who might want to follow in their footsteps. Another young sometime jihadist who's been there, done that could provide far more powerful testimony not to join up than anyone else.

But even if that weren't true, we still should try to rehabilitate those who are disillusioned.