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Uk's Economy To Overtake Germany's ?

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FredPuli43 | 09:01 Thu 26th Dec 2013 | News
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http://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/dec/26/britain-europe-top-economy-by-2030

Well, that's what the report says . Anyone believe it?
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not a chance.
2030, isn't that rather putting the cart before the horse.
"A rising population..." one of the things that will see us on the road to prosperity? Aren't there some who believe that will one of the causes of us all ending up in Carey Street?
in the dust cart more like, how can we afford more and more people...
If a leading Think Tank says it, it must be true.
perhaps not, and come on we don't know what our economy will be like today, tomorrow, let alone in 2030
Nope.
I have no idea and it will not affect me as I will be dead by then! however it does have certain significance for the next election.
To me, the only chance for an outright Tory victory is an upsurge in the UK economy and that is what we are seeing.
We shall have to wait until we see one of Mikey's poles indicating the gap between Labour and the conservatives.....in other words, are the electorate feeling the " upsurge" and I think, at the moment...NO.

I have lived too long now to accept, reports, studies and statistics but I realise that we are entering into an interesting next few months.
if the economy is on the up, and keeps on going up, will the electorate go with Labour next time out the gate, i wonder..
emmie......LOL

As long as the electorate choices either Labour or Tories, I will be happy! as I have no faith whatsoever in Coalitions.
Just looked up some of the Centre for Economic and Business Research's past predictions. They are mainly a one man band led by Douglas McWilliams. For years he has been predicting the collapse of the €uro and break up of the EU. Both of which have not happened.

I suspect his prediction of France and German waning is based on that bias. I would be very surprised if we overtook Germany. Especially from the very poor state of our economy today, to race to the front of Eirope seems highly unlikely.
What a lot of Think Tankers (sp?) ...
Here is the Centre for Economic and Business Research's prediction 2 years ago...

// The euro is likely to start breaking up in 2012 with more than one country expected to leave by the end of the year, according to the Centre for Economics and Business Research.

In a prediction of the year ahead, the think tank argues that an eventual breakup of the eurozone is virtually assured over the next decade, revising its previous estimates of an 80 per cent likelihood of this happening up to a 99 per cent chance that the currency will collapse.

And while it admits that the euro's descent in 2012 is "not a done deal yet", it says that "our forecast is that by the end of the year at least one country (and probably more) will leave"- predicting a 60 per cent chance of this occurring.

CEBR's chief executive Douglas McWilliams says that European banks are likely to require a host of bailouts as the EU moves back into recession.

He argues that "most" of the French and German banking systems will need to be bailed out to compensate for writedowns on their sovereign debt holdings.

"They might even be nationalised as well," McWilliams says. "Many other European banks will go back into crisis." //

We should take the precictions of this 'Think Tank' with a pinch of salt.
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Odd you should say that, Gromit. Without investigating the source, it struck me as a peculiarly ideology driven piece. It makes one assumption, in particular; that Germany will abandon the euro (and if it doesn't we'll never catch up); the premiss for which seems unlikely!
as long as we don't adopt the euro Germany can do what it pleases, as it always seems to.
Fred
The CEBR cites Germany's depreciating currency for its future woes. Which reminds me of another of the CEBR failed predictions 5 years ago.

Pound could drop below parity with euro as British economy 'walks beside a cliff'
By DAILY MAIL REPORTER
28 December 2009

// The pound could sink below parity with the euro amid market doubts over the Government's plans to tackle the deficit, an economic forecaster warned today.

The Centre for Economics and Business Research (CEBR) said the UK economy was walking 'five yards away from the edge of the cliff' and could be toppled by an 'unexpected gust'.
Chief executive Douglas McWilliams said currency markets were currently betting on a Conservative general election victory and tougher action to address the UK's deficit - but if Labour showed signs of narrowing the gap, the pound could plunge.
This was due to the poorly-received Pre-Budget Report earlier in the month, which failed to lay out detailed plans to tackle the public finances.
'If I had to bet, I would bet on the side of parity being broken,' Mr McWilliams said. //

The pound never dropped below parity with the Euro in the 5 years since they made that prediction.
Squad is almost right

//To me, the only chance for an outright Tory victory is an upsurge in the UK economy and that is what we are seeing. //

The thing is though just the economy picking up is not enough - it has to work its way into the pockets of the like of you and me.

We all see headlines of the economy picking up but inflation is still outstripping salaries and so people's disposable income is dropping.

People don't measure a Government's economic performance by the GDP figure in the papers but in their paypackets
they don;t even do that half the time, it's what the bloke looks like, sounds like, one of the reason Blair did very well, slick oil salesman.
TV presentability is sadly too important - although lets not forget Cameron benefited from that too while we're throwing about accusations of snake oil - but that'll only give the edge

As Clinton said 'It's the economy stupid'

Incidently this decline in the relative importance of European economies is exactly the reason the EU is so important

Individually all of our economys will be small and not very important compared to China, US Brazil India etc

Together the EU's economy will probably be on a par with China

That's the world these days - get big or get lost
all the more reason to have better ties with China, India. i don't think our economy is so robust anyone can predict what it will be like in 2030, not even tomorrow...

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