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ummmm | 17:58 Wed 22nd May 2013 | News
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Gromit, I can only presume that you were also able to shrug off the beheading of Ken Bigley and all the other innocent hostages who have suffered the same horrendous fate at the hands of fanatical religious madmen. War is war, and war brings casualties on all sides. This was not war. It was cold blooded murder carried out in the most horrific and barbaric way...
22:36 Thu 23rd May 2013
That's dreadful grommit - can you imagine if a bomb in London had killed 11 children?

And it scarcelly made the News!

I wonder how many Afghan children equals one British soldier in the eyes of the media? - 20? 100?
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Gromit, have you seen what the Taliban do to women, those who don't conform, or are accused on some trumped up charge of adultery, or men who don't conform to their strict adherence to Islam, Quran, or to westerners that are kidnapped for ransom, they don't pussy foot around, they are usually murdered in the most brutal fashion. Women are still being stoned to death, if you think that it's all about western forces behaving badly, then suggest the like of Al Quaeda and The Taliban would consider us stupid for being so lenient and care about those who get in the way. Their aim is to subjugate, conquer they don't care who gets killed. From watching Al Jezeera yesterday i believe there is a price on the head of the young girl who was shot in the head, the who is now residing in Britain, is she is any safer here i wonder.
they killed 52 people of all backgrounds, nationalities in London, remember that.
JTP do you actually hate this country, and it's armed services, because some of your posts are just so anti British, never stopping for a moment to think of this poor guys family, only having your say on how many are killed elsewhere.
Ok so if its responses to what's happened then the man apparently killed Muslims over there I didn't air a view on that either ... There may be no war on the streets of London as I think ummm said but from what the killers have said this is because of a war the victim was involved in ...our country sends its soldiers wherever it likes and they inevitably kill people there .. War is just legalised killing ... The people who did this don't care the man is back in England where there is peace they don't care about borders ... They attacked him because of what they believed he has done .. To me they are cowards if that was their belief then why didn't they go in the barracks and take on men where there were plenty who may have done this .. If they think they are fighting in the name of Islam they would not have been afraid to be fought back at but they chose instead to attack a lone man who couldn't have fought back .. They seemed to be wanting to fight in the name of Islam but didn't seem to be prepared to die in the name of Islam doing it. ... I'm not sure that will make sense to a lot of you but I'm trying to get into their heads as why they did it ...
Gromit

// 20 people dead, including 11 Afghan children killed in an airstrike and an American civilian adviser, officials said Sunday. //

/// So where on the scale does blowing 11 children to smithereens rate on the scale? ///

So is it all a matter of keeping things in proportion is it Gromit?

To compare what has happened in another countries war zone, against the barbaric murder of one's own countrymen, committed in one's own capital in broad daylight, is nothing more than a disgusting cheap political dig at our Armed Forces.

/// The battle unfolded on Saturday, the same day that a total of six Americans, including three U.S. soldiers, died in violent attacks. In addition to the U.S. adviser killed during the operation in the east, two others – a female foreign service officer with the U.S. State Department and an employee with the U.S. Defense Department – died in a suicide bombing in southern Zabul province during a trip to donate books to Afghan students. ///

Whereabouts do you place those other nine deaths on your scale?

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This attempt at 'Outrage One-upmanship'

(my dead people are more significant than your dead people)

is becoming quite repulsive

A young man was murdered by what appeared to be two deranged people - get a grip everyone
Madmen

/// I'm not really sure what the point of that was...? ///

I would have thought that obvious.

The crystal ball reference was regarding you forecast for next week

/// I give it a week before some EDL thug has murdered an innocent man :( ///
To the person that think I'm Racist, far from it I have Muslim friends & they have also said the same as I, these 2 had it in min to kill a member of the British Army, but I wonder if these two would have the b@lls to fight for this country? they & a few others are quick enough to come here from their war torn pit of a country that SOME WERE BORN in, first Problem, Border Control for not doing their job properly, how many has been let into the FREELAND OF HONEY? there has been a lot of comments regards this Soldier / some one's son that these pigs killed, I like a few others know the problem, where the problem comes from, we also here about Integration, I do not think the Whites have any problem with that, its not us that has a chip on our shoulders, you want Integration? work for it, How, you must know the source of this problem, its not the whites that keep gunning down people in London & the other UK Cities, It's not the Whites that go around in cars in Rochdale / Oxford Grooming children, get you house in order, then start to integrate, that is, if you want it.
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Aog

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2316958/Small-Heath-stabbing-Birmingham-pensioner-Mohammed-Saleem-Chaudry-killed-way-evening-prayers.html

And your point is?

I have already made reference to this case, in this or another such thread.
i know that the children harmed no one, no more than most children, but the 52 killed in London had harmed no one either, they weren't soldiers, but people going about their day, they left loved ones behind too.
AOG

It is not cheap political dig at our armed forces. The drone attack that killed 11 children was by US forces not 'OURS'.

The terrible attack yesterday was retribution for the many attacks on foreign soil resulting in innocent deaths. The terrorists, though perverse, wished that the horrors in Afghanistan and Iraq where visited on us. And we would not elect such wRmongering Governments it future.

As to your second paragraph. On my scale, those deaths are military personell, killed in a land they had invaded by people who did not want to be invaded. In no way do they equate with 11 dead children or a young lad hacked to death thousands of mles away from Afghanistan.
Have it your way Zeuhl, it's patently obvious that the opinion of the man in the street doesn't register with you.
As before, you sound like Ken Clarke with his assessment of UKIP and their chances at the recent elections.
Reality tends to turn round and bite you on the arse.
The terrorist appeasers are really showing their true colours today.
Do you seriously believe Gromit that those children were specifically targeted?
Sadly, it's a fact of life that those who preach and purvey terror surround and embed themselves into innocent communities.
Air strikes attempt to be as clinical as possible, but unfortunately aren't always.
NATO and IFOR don't indiscriminately target children though, but you already knew that.
(my dead people are more significant than your dead people)

is becoming quite repulsive

I notice its the likes of the British army & the other Forces that are trying to liberate these rat infested terrorist country's that you seen to love, if you love the country's that much, do your duty, go out & help the people.
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my suggestion for what it's worth, is that had we never invaded any Muslim country, the fanatics would still exist here. And they don't have any compunction in using the women they supposedly revere to strap bombs to, not to mention killing children by the thousands.
AOG

"I would have thought that obvious. "

This is me you are talking to, don't forget :)

From what I've read in the news, I think it'll probably happen a lot sooner than that. It seems many people agree with yesterday's killer when he says "an eye for an eye"... which is a bit ridiculous.

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