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rov1100 | 01:45 Fri 25th Nov 2011 | News
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Are the Public Sector workers selfish for going on strike which will do enormous harm to the country?
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Kayless - you have missed #7. Ah - you are unemployed and have a problem with decent, working people receiving the reasonable pension they were promised. Shame you have to get mad and are not capable of getting even.
I am not unemployed or even umemployed anyone on here will tell you that.
steady on kayless..

if you upset this lot they will carry out an extensive risk assessment and have a dozen meetings to establish permission to continue the thread...
K, why is it that I so rarely find myself dealing with industrious, talented and patient - words which I take to be the opposite of lazy, talentless and whining - people in my dealings with the private sector?
Lots of examples, but here are just a couple from recently...
I reached the end of an insurance deal last month and received the cheque due. Shortly thereafter, a letter came thanking me fulsomely for my 25-year investment with the company. Great, you might think, except that my name was misspelt! No attempt to check even after a quarter of a century of dealings, correspondence etc?
At around the same time, someone at my Building Society started badgering me for evidence that I would be able to pay them, despite the fact that I had already provided such evidence aplenty. In the end, an appeal to a higher level in the company sorted things out, but why was I subjected to the hassle because some dim functionary couldn't be bothered to verify matters for himself?

I could go on with masses of further evidence of the utter incompetence of private sector employees...don't even get me started on Comet!...but I'll leave it at that.
The 'K' above was a reference to Kayless, not Kinell.
There's a wide range of jobs in the Public sector, of course.

There are high paid admin staff with very cushy numbers, and there are poorly paid staff, for instance in hospitals, who have hard and dirty jobs.

The loudest squeaking seems to come from the cushy number brigade...
You cannot lump all public sector workers together as jobsworths. Most nurses, teachers and other front line workers have a draining job. Personally I wouldn't strike but those doing it have every right to do so.
Hadn't seen yours Venator when mine was written. Break over and back to grindstone ha ha!
Seadogg, if that was aimed at me, read what I said again.

We're in complete agreement!
Crossed lines! Good grinding!
Selfish because it will do "enormous harm" ? Well I suppose when the choice is to become a martyr for others' benefit, then it is understandable. No one likes to be pushed around as if they were unimportant.
Does anyone know what "reform" is being made to the (millionaire) Francis Maude's pension as going by the Government's reasoning it is no longer financially sustainable?
I think all contracts should be honoured for existing employees of the public sector and only changed for future employees.
I worked for a bank and we contributed 6% of our salary's to our pensions including our London allowance.
When I was 2 years into retirement I had moved from London to the West Midlands.
The bank proposed that pensioners who had left London should not have the London weighting paid on their pensions.
The problem was however myself and other employees were charged for pensions at the higher London rate during our working lives so we should be paid out at the higher london rate regardless where we lived when we retired.
If our pension contributions had not included 6% of our London Allowance in that case is would have fair not to have paid London weighting anywhere.


Kate
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Going back to your original question . Yes they are, and for the same reason that unions went on strike during the WWII depriving our forces of munitions and equipment . I know because I was in the army and we were sent to a company in Manchester to help speed up the delivery of our generators which were months behind the delivery date because of strikes. Our presense only made matters worse the socialist union bosses immediately called another strike.
moeller - As we are apparantely "all in this together", do you think the Armed Forces pensions should be similarly "reformed" as they are no longer sustainable?
I am not talking about Nurses, Firemen, Paramedics etc, but those large numbers that sit behind desks, sipping coffee and surfing the net, instead of doing some constructive work.

These are the ones who should consider themselves lucky to have such a job, never mind about one which comes with a lucrative pension at the end of their "working" life????

Perhaps if they were sacked there would be plenty of volunteers from the ranks of the unemployed for their cushy jobs, and who would most likely be only too willing to contribute to, and receive the same type of pension that the private section receive.
AOG, I sit behind a desk, whether I have a cup of coffee on it makes no difference. it doesn't mean I'm taking coffee breaks, does it? I'm here with a cup of coffee.

and I'm on the net now. in my lunchbreak. I do actually work quite hard, and my work is pressurised and quite stressful.

get a grip, really.
It must be difficult for Public service workers to accept they will not get the pension they expected when they first started their employment, the pension rights cannot be within their Contract of Employment or their employers would all be taken to Employment Tribunals.
Unfortunately, if they demand their original pension rights, which are funded from taxation, they will be expecting people, who may not have such good pension rights, to pay more to give them.
They have been offered generous terms and should accept them and I live with two teachers, who have made me suffer for holding such views.
Do you have a diarrhoea of words and a constipation of ideas, Kayless ?

Some people simply cannot afford to have their pension contributions increased by 50%

Many public sector workers love their jobs but not the way they keep getting shafted.

With such steep increases in tax and pension contributions, there will be nothing left of our monthly pay soon.

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