A very interesting point was raised on the Mathew Wright Show today

[Bobbisox]

Are foreign workers really taking our jobs?
or as a Nation, are we too lazy?
Who really is to blame?
The company's for exploiting foreign workers by paying them a lot less?
This is always an emotive topic so let me state here and now, I am not being a Racist bigot

[joeluke]

Just the usual 'it's bobbisox's post so lets have a go at her and hope she bites'

Ignore em pet, don't give em what they want

[Bobbisox]

I'm not biting at all JL, I am actually enjoying my time on here more than ever I did x

[Bobbisox]

I hope we can get back on topic without it being derailed once more

[supersuezy24]

I'm not having a dig but so many threads do get derailed at times..

[Bobbisox]

yes? and???
Try maneuvering your way through just to keep it on topic like Joe says

[jackthehat]

Right.....
Present and ready to get back on topic......

Where were we ?

[boxtops]

We havea lot of foreign workers here, working hard on minimum wages, and equally an awful lot of people on benefits and not working. If the migrant workers weren't here, the sort of jobs they are doing probably wouldn't appeal to many others - lots are working vegetable picking and so on. IMO if the benefits system was similar to what it is in France, you can only claim for a year then if you haven't got a job after that, your benefit stops, or so I believe.

[mike11111]

Go back to the OP madam, not rocket science!

[albaqwerty]

I've not read through all the posts but am wondering if 'foreign workers' are non-EU for the point of this discussion.

If they are EU members then they can work here and we can similarly work in other EU countries.

However, as a nation (UK) it would appear that there are jobs which 'are below us'. Why, I've no idea, if no-one cleaned the loo in an up-market place, it wouldn't be up-market for long would it?

Evening joy x

[supersuezy24]

Bobbi, I was making a statement, I said I was not having a dig.
No need to be so defensive I was merely trying to manoeuver away from the sarkiness!
And last time I checked I did not take orders from Joe ;)

[boxtops]

Most are EU alba, Eastern bloc.

[jackthehat]

Mike11111 - At whom was your comment aimed ?

[Bobbisox]

God only knows jth
I was saying I was not blaming the immigrants taking from the system but the lady sods who wont do the menial work then bleat that that foreign workers take their jobs and I still think bosses exploit them, maybe it's all been said but because I asked for the thread in CB to be removed as a respect, I will try valiantly to ignite this one

[karenmac60]

What's the difference between foreign workers here and 'gap year' students working abroad? Why applaud one lot and accuse the other lot of stealing jobs?

[Bobbisox]

<lazy>

[boxtops]

I like lady sods better, bobbi ;-)

[Bobbisox]

Karen I am not at all against migrant workers from Europe but I see them as being exploited and having to work for less than the minimum wage while Brits refuse to do such jobs

[Bobbisox]

ha-ha boxy, so do I actually :-)

[albaqwerty]

I must admit I wouldn't tootle to Latvia or it's ilk.

I'm just curious as to why come here, are we the only EU country with a minimum wage?
(Honestly, I've no idea) They must have to go through other countries before they get here. (I don't have a problem with much or any of it) I only ask in order to get a better understanding of the whole caboodle.

[boxtops]

We often see on TV Afghans etc being interviewed from the Jungle camp outside Calais, being asked why they don't stay in France and why they want to come to the UK - almost inevitably they say they will have a house and a job, and get married and have a family. It seems that they think that this country is some sort of Shangri-La - and tbh the French don't want them either.