Can Anyone Explain After Two World Wars Liberating Europe From The Nazis

[SparklyKid]

we have now got to beg and scrape from the EU, beggars belief.

[bednobs]

what has one got to do with the other?

[Canary42]

The first world war had nothing to do with the Nazis. It's good to see an obvious Brexiteer having such a firm grasp on facts.

[Rockrose]

Oh goodness what a way to twist a situation, but never mind I am sure you will get support from the usual crews.

[diddlydo]

Sparklykid clearly needs lessons in history and logic.

[SparklyKid]

Not from remainer idiots !

[jim360]

What about from Remainer sensible people?

[youngmafbog]

We do not have to go and beg and scrape from them.

There is a vast world to do trade with, if the EU dont want our trade fine. However I suspect European business see it differently and 'side deals' will occur. Business operates outside of Governments, they only want the EU because in effect it means in this country the general taxpayer pays the import tax rather than their own customer.

[choux]

I think Germany has other fish to worry over without your thread SK:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6595309/Germany-avoids-recession-skin-teeth-current-financial-quarter-one-day-LONGER.html

What a difference a day makes ... ;)

[spathiphyllum]

Sparkely, if we wanted to leave with no deal, we could easily have done so some time ago.

Fact is, we need them, and the gov know it.

[10ClarionSt]

We didn't liberate Europe in WW2. It was the Yanks. We only played a bit part.

[diddlydo]

WW1 and WW2 have nothing whatsoever to do with Brexit. End of.

[vetuste_ennemi]

//We didn't liberate Europe in WW2. It was the Yanks. We only played a bit part//

A derisive dismissal (from an unexpected source, may I say) of the sacrifice Britain made to defend its own, if not the rest of Europe's, liberty.

Had Britain capitulated as appeasers then wanted (as appeasers want now, and as appeasers always will) there would have been no reason for the US to have spent vast treasure in Europe. Europe would not have been an "enemy", it would have been been a unitary regulatory and trading regime. Capitalist America could have accommodated and dealt with such a Europe. N'est-ce pas? Sorry, nicht wahr?

They could have spent all there time fighting the Japanese over trade embargoes.

[naomi24]

v_e, I think he's being facetious.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Oops, that'll teach me to drink Pay D'Oc rosé with my Iceland's beef stroganoff.

Apologies, No 10.


PS: Clarion not Downing.

[sanmac]

Of course the Americans won the war: It's been well-documented. Haven,t you watched documentaries such as "The Longest Day", "The Dirty Dozen", "Kelly's Heroes", etc?

[vetuste_ennemi]

Not forgetting Patton and the Hollywood verion of the Bltechley Park breakthrough. I think it was called "The Enigma Variation".

[sanmac]

Some great music in that last one you mentioned, VE.

[vetuste_ennemi]

John Williams, was it?

[sanmac]

Vaughan, I believe:)

[Theland]

Or, " The Enema Variation."