If You Were Tasked With...

[agchristie]

...achieving a higher criminal conviction rate by reducing the threshold to secure a 'guilty' verdict,what phrase wud u replace 'beyond reasonable doubt' with?

[agchristie]

Nailit,yep,I suppose its not abt the facts themselves but how the facts are presented by the Pros/Def barristers.

Unfortunately for u the better performance came from the other side....

[nailit]

//Unfortunately for u the better performance came from the other side....//
I had a split jury but the judge, after much faffing, said he would accept a majority verdict...think he was late for his lunch appointment!
I was looking at losing my liberty, my home, all my possessions, and possibly my life as I was suicidal at the time.
The judge was late for his dinner!!!

[retrocop]

//The judge was late for his dinner!!!//


Best you don't meet him again then. :-)

[THECORBYLOON]

The majority decision would mean at least ten of the twelve believed you were guilty.

[nailit]

//The majority decision would mean at least ten of the twelve believed you were guilty//
Ay, and the other two saw through the theatrics of it all....

[jno]

///The judge was late for his dinner!!!///

But you don't know that, nailit, you've just invented it. Sounds to me like he was just following standard procedure. Unless he leaned on the jury to convict, the problem was elsewhere.

[nailit]

//Best you don't meet him again then//
Best I dont meet the lying police officers that were willing to purjure themselves in court you mean?

[nailit]

Sorry Ag,
Shouldnt have posted....
All the hang 'em high brigade have arrived,

[THECORBYLOON]

It's not for us to comment on whether the verdict was correct or no since we have not heard all the evidence in the case.

[nailit]

//It's not for us to comment on whether the verdict was correct or no since we have not heard all the evidence in the case//

But you felt free to comment??

[agchristie]

Nailit,I wud never stop anyone from posting.Not in my powers!

[nailit]

I was replying to CORBY.
Still, there are those that believe that the police never lie, the courts are just and justice is there to be served...

[agchristie]

"there are those that believe that the police never lie"

Some do lie.Simples.

[fcc]

It's the ACAB tattoo on your knuckles that turned the jury against you mate.


only joking.

[nailit]

//Some do lie.Simples//
10 out of 12 jurors be believe them as well ;-(

[nailit]

//ACAB tattoo//
Lost me there fcc?

[Neveracrossword]

Nailit, All Coppers Are...

[nailit]

//Nailit, All Coppers Are...//

Answerbankers??
;-)

[nailit]

Going bed,
Dont wish to take over ag's thread. Apologies,

[THECORBYLOON]

I was stating a fact about majority verdicts in England and Wales, you were stating opinions about the Judge and the jury.

I made no comment about whether the verdict was correct or no.