My Rage To Cheating Fiancee Man

[r800atv]

Ok do shooe down here,,, I recently discovered that my fiancee was seeing another man (her ex boss) i followed her one night and found them walking together so I gave him a good beating but whilst i was hitting him he kept saying to me hit me not my car, (I was in a state of rage and cant remember doing the following) after a short while punching him my he hid behind my fiancee and i know i dont hit girls so aparently i wen to his brand new BMW and started punching the car to the extent it had no glass, mirrors, lights, and all panels were dented causing £13k damage.
now after punching him and loosing my mind i can remember my fiancee shouting in my face i looked down to my hands and they was ripped to shreds blood everywhere! I do not recall walking to car smashing it or chasing him around it with a iron bar like he has said in statement.
i need advice on what to do now do I plead guilty to something I cant honestly remember? what could I expect in court to happen?

[FredPuli43]

Since you ask,"If I found my partner with someone else" I wouldn't attack him or his property. I might wonder why she was with him rather than me. Did you ask yourself that question about your fiancee?

The law, and the rest of us, doesn't like behaviour like yours, and telling anyone, the judge included, you had an excuse will only make things worse for you.

You'll be guided by counsel and solicitor Unless you want to claim that the whole story about any damage to the car isentirely invented and lies, you'll have to plead guilty, judging from what you say. It's always open to you to argue, through your advocate, that the damage was not as bad as claimed, but a) you'll need some grounds for saying it and b) it isn't going to make any difference, in reality. You're never going to show that the damage was only a few pounds.

[woofgang]

Wind Up Troll?

[Orderlimit]

Cheers Woofgang, I need to catch up with modern terms lol

Well, it is correct so far that a Magistrates court would adjourn a case for valuation of damage at this level then look to refer the matter to the Crown.

[Hopkirk]

Careful Eddie, some of us have had our bottoms smacked for doubting this gentleman.

[pastafreak]

eek!...half the thread is missing. I don't remember the answers to be that.....

[pastafreak]

*that bad....*

[EDDIE51]

Plead Guilty.
As you can't remember anything about it you have no choice , you can't defend yourself aginst the charge if you can't remember anything about it.
An early guilty plea will get you a 1/3rd reduction in sentence .

[EDDIE51]

Just to add , if ''my hands were ripped to shreds'' as you say there will be blood and skin on the car, so plenty of DNA evidence to convict you.
My advice remains '' Plead Guilty'' and get the sentence reduced .

[r800atv]

this aint a joke like a few of you think! I got a caution because I have not got previous and yes my solicitor said I was lucky they gave me a caution as if this was to be included in the charge as well the outcome would have been a lot different, I dont understand how some people think this is made up and to why one would make up such a story.......?
ii would include a link to pic of charge sheet if it did not contain my name and personal details.
If you dont beleive dont comment and dont read i certainly dont need jokers making stupid comments I posted on here as i have no one to talk to about this and thought there may be people out there that can actually help me.
I am very worried about this situation and like i said id rather get no replies than peope implying this is made up

[sandyRoe]

NOw that you've got a caution you can put this all behind you.

[Orderlimit]

Hi r800

Is the value of damage pretty accurate at £13 k????

[mrs_overall]

When you followed your fiancee, were you carrying the iron bar for an innocent purpose?

[humbersloop]

thankfully, going equipped to burgle doesn't seem to figure among the charges mrs o, so a caution looks like a good result

[Orderlimit]

Just to clarify

Its not unusual in these type of situations for the assault to be finalised as a Caution and the damage to proceed to court. R800atv obviously admitted the assault in full and was lucky enough to only have received a Caution. The damage is more awkward because of recovering the cost etc and I doubt the insurance company will be amused if the matter was dealt with differently.

r800, has your solicitor given any indication of likely sentence?

[Orderlimit]

r800, I cant immediately find any similar cases on-line to compare sentences. Unfortunately the Sentencing Council Guidelines available to the public have not yet got to the criminal damage cases for some odd reason but you could go onto the Lawpages site and look http://www.thelawpages.com/criminal-offence/Criminal-damage-to-a-vehicle-147-4.law. You will have to register (free) then you can search for one that matches etc (sorry I do not have the time).

Eddie is correct regarding the difficulties of defending allegations when you cant remember the circumstances etc but this case does have room for mitigation. There is another poster on this site who is one switched on cookie (New Judge) who may be able to give some indication.

[Khandro]

This is so obviously a wind-up, the OP only joined AB yesterday. I said it was so as the second post on this thread and it was removed and it looks as though the same has happened to many others, why is this?