With The Cost Of Meals For Eating Out Going Up ,should People Still Tip

[gollob]

If so how much?

[TheDevil]

"But we aren’t talking shop ,at least I wasn’t"

No, you're right. You were talking principles. Why do yours change from service to service?

[Old_Geezer]

Rationally one should never tip. Or conversely tip everyone connected with anything you receive, which is impractical. So the alternative is to go with whatever illogical rule society approves of and tip whomever you like as much as you like.

[pastafreak]

Did you check aldis?

https://www.payscale.com/research/UK/Employer=Aldi%2C_Inc./Hourly_Rate

[TheDevil]

I have objection to Americans displaying products without tax price on shelfs then adding a price at the checkout.

My same objection goes for paying for a £10 burger and £3 fries and being expected to pay a £14.40 minimum.
If they want more money, add it to the food and drinks now some "unspoken" custom.

[Old_Geezer]

I found the increase in price at the checkout a bind too. But it's just a choice by each society independently, rather than wrong. I don't much care how much of the bill goes to the supplier and how much to government, I can't withhold any of it anyway. I'm more concerned about what it is I'm going to be asked to pay. Surprised all societies don't feel the same.

[New Judge]

//I've dined at some of the most world class hotels known to man.//

Then you will (or should) realise that waiting (properly) is not an unskilled job and to suggest that it is insults those people who have chosen it as a profession. The problem in the UK is that many establishments employ people who are unskilled to wait on their tables. It is seen (as is evident from your remarks) as a menial job, something that people do when they can get no other job, something that students do for pocket money, something that people do to pay the rent whilst waiting for something better to turn up. But having a professional waiter/waitress serve you, one who knows about the food and drink they are serving, knows about how it's cooked, knows about the ingredients and most of all knows how to make your evening just a little better than ramming some food down your gullet from a cardboard box, demonstrates that the job is skilled and worthy of proper reward. Whether you choose to reward them additionally as a personal contribution is of course your choice.

[pastafreak]

TheDevil

I have objection to Americans displaying products without tax price on shelfs then adding a price at the checkout. 

Tough...that's the way it's done there. You're paying several different taxes...local as in state and city ...and will vary from state to state. So...labelling everything individually isn't practical.

[TheDevil]

"Tough...that's the way it's done there."

It's not tough cus I don't go or live there.

I'm from the UK and the way it's commonly done here is to not tip. So sorrrrrryyyyyy if I don't tip.

[Bobbisox1]

I did not bring Tesco or Pizza Hug into this , you did!
And yes I talk principles, we all need them

[Old_Geezer]

Labelling everything individually isn't any more difficult there than anywhere else. An individual shop knows what taxes have to be applied. They aren't going to change daily or hourly.

[Bobbisox1]

// Hut///

[woofgang]

my answer remaisn the same, if you don't like it then don't go.

[TheDevil]

"and worthy of proper reward."

NewJudge, that's why they apply for the job, are employed by the establishment and then paid by said establishment.

It's not a reward, it's being paid for your job.

[TheDevil]

"my answer remaisn the same, if you don't like it then don't go."

So what you're saying is, everyone who doesn't want to pay a tip shouldn't go out to eat? I wonder how that will do for the restaurants across the UK! they would all be shut down by next week.

[Jackdaw33]

It always pays to stay on the right side of waiters. They can do some nasty things to your food when out of sight.

[pastafreak]

Ooooohhhhhhh( bite your tongue pasta... )

//It's not tough cus I don't go or live there.//....then why do you object??.

[TheDevil]

Bobbi, pizza express is a proper restaurant. I didn't say hut. you're flailing

[TheDevil]

Pasta because if it was incorporated here i wouldn't be happy, but it's not, so it don't affect me.

[Bobbisox1]

TD when you’re on the losing side of an argument you resort to both sarcasm and semi insults?
I hope the service you provide as as a gardener that your customers are a bit more benevolent than you are

[pastafreak]

Talk about going off topic...