How Can We Fix The Nhs?

[banker_frank]

Should people with self inflicted health problems due to over-indulgence of food drugs and alcohol be made to pay more into the NHS

[woofgang]

What about people with sports injuries, the problems of childbirth and infertility? All lifestyle choices......

[spathiphyllum]

No.

[banker_frank]

Strongly believe that infertility should not be funded by the NHS which was founded to help working people get free healthcare.
For sports injuries please refer to my other thread if you want to that is.

[teacake44]

The biggest drain of the NHS is not the patients, but the pharmaceutical companies ripping them off for the drugs. They see it as a bottomless purse.

[banker_frank]

If the NHS expected a payment towards drugs for those with self-inflicted health problems then this would save millions a year.
Self inflicted as in they would not have that disease if they had not smoked, drank or eaten to excess.

[spathiphyllum]

What about people in London... The air pollution is so bad, it affects their health. They may as well smoke 5-10 a day. Should they have to pay extra for NHS due to higher pollution levels?

[banker_frank]

No because the environment someone lives in is not self inflicted.

[SparklyKid]

Simple. Stop paying for health tourism.

[spathiphyllum]

"No because the environment someone lives in is not self inflicted."

Yes it is. Especially if you move to London etc.

[teacake44]

So does that mean all sexual diseases are self inflicted? how do you stand on that one?

[banker_frank]

If you get a sexually transmitted disease it is your fault for not taking precautions so therefore its self inflicted. If you contract AIDS through any other means than drug use or sexually then that is NOT self inflicted..

[ToraToraTora]

no, almost every ailment can be "self inflicted" to some extent.

[ToraToraTora]

by far the largest money consumer is personnel, it needs less managers and administrators and a much more efficient structure.

[banker_frank]

Nonsense.

[ToraToraTora]

BF give me an example of something that you consider not to be self inflicted.

[banker_frank]

nonsense refers to 13.10

[banker_frank]

Fibromyalgia
cystic fibrosis
muscular dystrophy
haemophilia
Rheumatoid Disease
Huntingdons disease
many many more.......

[ToraToraTora]

no, I think nonsense refers to everything you have written on this site. Now give me an example of something that you do not consider to be self inflicted.

[banker_frank]

Think I just have my friend (smiley face)

[ichkeria]

You can’t expect a serious answer to a question that uses the term “self-inflicted” to refer to health problems.
The NHS isn’t “free” anyway. And never has been. It’s free at the point of use for many things, not all