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Getting away from the 'presumed consent' issue - although I may go back there as well - I'd like to pose a question ...
There are four possible combinations of answers to these two questions :
1. Would you accept a transplant?
2. Would you allow your organs to be used for transplantation after your death?
The combinations are
YES/YES
NO/NO
NO/YES
YES/NO
The first two are (self-evidently) consistent and honest - no problems there at all.
The third is unusual - but I can see circumstances where I might refuse a transplant (perhaps because of other health issues) but would still wish my organs to be used.
The fourth seems (to me) to be wholly hypocritical and unacceptable. Would anyone like to defend that position? Or what would you do if someone chose that option?
There are four possible combinations of answers to these two questions :
1. Would you accept a transplant?
2. Would you allow your organs to be used for transplantation after your death?
The combinations are
YES/YES
NO/NO
NO/YES
YES/NO
The first two are (self-evidently) consistent and honest - no problems there at all.
The third is unusual - but I can see circumstances where I might refuse a transplant (perhaps because of other health issues) but would still wish my organs to be used.
The fourth seems (to me) to be wholly hypocritical and unacceptable. Would anyone like to defend that position? Or what would you do if someone chose that option?
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I can argue the fourth position without holding it myself.
As it's late, I'll shortcut by saying have a read of this:
https:/
Just the intro will do:
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Death anxiety is anxiety which is caused by thoughts of death. One source defines death anxiety as a "feeling of dread, apprehension or solicitude (anxiety) when one thinks of the process of dying, or ceasing to 'be'". It is also referred to as thanatophobia (fear of death), and is distinguished from necrophobia, which is a specific fear of dead or dying persons and/or things (i.e. others who are dead or dying, not one's own death or dying).
Additionally, there is anxiety caused by death-related thought-content, which might be classified within a clinical setting by a psychiatrist as morbid and/or abnormal, which for classification pre-necessitates a degree of anxiety which is persistent and interferes with everyday functioning. Lower ego integrity, more physical problems, and more psychological problems are predictive of higher levels of death anxiety in elderly people because of how close to death they are.
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Then imagine somebody with such fears/phobias agreeing to have their organs removed while they're still alive.
Then imagine somebody with such fears/phobias being offered the opportunity of being kept alive by organ donation.
As it's late, I'll shortcut by saying have a read of this:
https:/
Just the intro will do:
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Death anxiety is anxiety which is caused by thoughts of death. One source defines death anxiety as a "feeling of dread, apprehension or solicitude (anxiety) when one thinks of the process of dying, or ceasing to 'be'". It is also referred to as thanatophobia (fear of death), and is distinguished from necrophobia, which is a specific fear of dead or dying persons and/or things (i.e. others who are dead or dying, not one's own death or dying).
Additionally, there is anxiety caused by death-related thought-content, which might be classified within a clinical setting by a psychiatrist as morbid and/or abnormal, which for classification pre-necessitates a degree of anxiety which is persistent and interferes with everyday functioning. Lower ego integrity, more physical problems, and more psychological problems are predictive of higher levels of death anxiety in elderly people because of how close to death they are.
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Then imagine somebody with such fears/phobias agreeing to have their organs removed while they're still alive.
Then imagine somebody with such fears/phobias being offered the opportunity of being kept alive by organ donation.
No, I probably wouldn't accept a transplant, but I would accept a mechanical organ.
Yes, I am a donor, they can use what they like of me once I am dead and I hope it benefits many people, but being a type one diabetic unlikely they would use much and I can't be a living donor.
3rd (ommitted question) I would donate blood if they would have it (Type 1 diabetic).
Yes, I am a donor, they can use what they like of me once I am dead and I hope it benefits many people, but being a type one diabetic unlikely they would use much and I can't be a living donor.
3rd (ommitted question) I would donate blood if they would have it (Type 1 diabetic).
Ah - so virtually the whole population of Japan is suffering from this psychological problem then, ellipsis - since they pretty much all adhere vehemently to the fourth position?
They're not just a bunch of first-world hypocrites who will buy organs from destitute inhabitants of third-world countries?
It may be a real condition, but it's a pretty rare one I would surmise.
They're not just a bunch of first-world hypocrites who will buy organs from destitute inhabitants of third-world countries?
It may be a real condition, but it's a pretty rare one I would surmise.
It's a very common phobia, Dave:
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Presumably the statistics quoted there are for all forms from mild to severe. Even so, fear of death is one of the most commonly cited fears.
https:/
Presumably the statistics quoted there are for all forms from mild to severe. Even so, fear of death is one of the most commonly cited fears.
Not so, Anne......unless the system has changed then in the case of kidneys the hospital where the donor dies can use one and the second goes to the national register......
And the person chosen to receive an organ won't necessarily be the person most ill.....it will go to the best possible recipient.......hence some waiting on the list for years....and some, not as ill, only days.....
Or....as in the case of MrG as an experiment for a new treatment for his type of condition......bit of a minefield which is why we need to make it as simple and kind as possible....x
And the person chosen to receive an organ won't necessarily be the person most ill.....it will go to the best possible recipient.......hence some waiting on the list for years....and some, not as ill, only days.....
Or....as in the case of MrG as an experiment for a new treatment for his type of condition......bit of a minefield which is why we need to make it as simple and kind as possible....x
this should never be a bargain. You could make individual bargains with people ("I'll give you mine if you give me yours"). But to extend that into some kind of transaction with the state ("We'll let you have a transplant if you agree to give us your body") is improper. It's not an equal bargain: the state is far more powerful, and is indeed trying to force the change of approach on us.
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