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About time the likes of O'Leary was bought back down to earth, (literally) greedy selfish, laughing all the way to the bank, fleecing passengers at every opportunity. Not any more, the boots are on the other feet. :0)
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naomi - // The NHS should be run as a business by people who understand business. // To my mind, that is what encapsulates the issues which are dragging the NHS down. The NHS is not a business, it's a service, and the two run on very different systems for different reasons. In a business, everything must be cost effective, it must justify its position and maintain...
17:20 Fri 01st May 2020
//Funny how the ones that have had their fair share of treatment from the NHS, are now pulling them apart.//
I can thank the front line NHS staff for saving my life at least twice. I am not pulling the front line staffa part but I will state that the NHS management are woefully inept and leave those who are the saviours totally ill equipped at their hour of need.
A CCU can't buy two more ventilators because they have exceeded their annual budget allotment but the outpatients down stairs can squander their budget on a paint job.
Any management with a brain would re-alloo0cate the budget surplus from out patients to CCU so they could purchase their ventilators. It ain't rocket science.
I can thank the front line NHS staff for saving my life at least twice. I am not pulling the front line staffa part but I will state that the NHS management are woefully inept and leave those who are the saviours totally ill equipped at their hour of need.
A CCU can't buy two more ventilators because they have exceeded their annual budget allotment but the outpatients down stairs can squander their budget on a paint job.
Any management with a brain would re-alloo0cate the budget surplus from out patients to CCU so they could purchase their ventilators. It ain't rocket science.
Don't forget, Teacake is convinced the NHS is free.
On a recent thread she simply could not understand that it is only free at the point of delivery.
Quite where Teacake thinks the NHS gets its money from is anybody's guess, because even when it was pointed out to her time and time again, she still insisted the NHS was free.
On a recent thread she simply could not understand that it is only free at the point of delivery.
Quite where Teacake thinks the NHS gets its money from is anybody's guess, because even when it was pointed out to her time and time again, she still insisted the NHS was free.
17.06 I don't really see you coming up with much evidence in your posts, however I enjoy, yes enjoy seeing greedy people being pulled back down to earth/ reality. Everyone has had it to easy for to long, some have been in a position to turn the screw if you like on the not so well off. Well tuff for them now, not anger at all, I'm over the moon if you like.
naomi - // The NHS should be run as a business by people who understand business. //
To my mind, that is what encapsulates the issues which are dragging the NHS down.
The NHS is not a business, it's a service, and the two run on very different systems for different reasons.
In a business, everything must be cost effective, it must justify its position and maintain its contribution towards overall profit margins, or it has to be dumped.
In a service - everything that is needed should be provided, the ends result of care and comfort and ideally cure justifies any and all costs involved in the provision of the service in all its fields.
These two models are absolutely diametrically opposed.
One exists to make money, and works on the basis of the bottom line being profit.
The other exists to make safety comfort and cure and works on the basis that the bottom line is preserving and extending life.
You cannot run a service as a business, and the current state of the NHS shows exactly what happens when you try - suits cut and cut and pick up bonuses for it, and doctors and nurses struggle with inadequately resourced wards and equipment.
If you want the NHS to make a financial profit, get a business manager to run it, if you want it to save lives, get a doctor or nurse to run it.
You can't have both, and trying, as we have and are, means you end up with neither - the veritable worst of both worlds.
To my mind, that is what encapsulates the issues which are dragging the NHS down.
The NHS is not a business, it's a service, and the two run on very different systems for different reasons.
In a business, everything must be cost effective, it must justify its position and maintain its contribution towards overall profit margins, or it has to be dumped.
In a service - everything that is needed should be provided, the ends result of care and comfort and ideally cure justifies any and all costs involved in the provision of the service in all its fields.
These two models are absolutely diametrically opposed.
One exists to make money, and works on the basis of the bottom line being profit.
The other exists to make safety comfort and cure and works on the basis that the bottom line is preserving and extending life.
You cannot run a service as a business, and the current state of the NHS shows exactly what happens when you try - suits cut and cut and pick up bonuses for it, and doctors and nurses struggle with inadequately resourced wards and equipment.
If you want the NHS to make a financial profit, get a business manager to run it, if you want it to save lives, get a doctor or nurse to run it.
You can't have both, and trying, as we have and are, means you end up with neither - the veritable worst of both worlds.
//Don't forget, Teacake is convinced the NHS is free.
On a recent thread she simply could not understand that it is only free at the point of delivery. //
As I said on that thread the only reason anyone could possibly think the NHS is free is if they don't pay taxes. I asked teacake if she pays taxes but got no response. I can only assume she doesn't and that's why, to her, it is free.
On a recent thread she simply could not understand that it is only free at the point of delivery. //
As I said on that thread the only reason anyone could possibly think the NHS is free is if they don't pay taxes. I asked teacake if she pays taxes but got no response. I can only assume she doesn't and that's why, to her, it is free.
teacake - // 17.06 I don't really see you coming up with much evidence in your posts … //
Evidence of what? You started the thread, the onus is on you to justify your position, or at least explain it.
// However I enjoy, yes enjoy seeing greedy people being pulled back down to earth/ reality. Everyone has had it to easy for to long, some have been in a position to turn the screw if you like on the not so well off. Well tuff for them now, not anger at all, I'm over the moon if you like. //
I don't see why you equate running a successful business with being 'greedy'.
Mr O'Leary runs a successful business in a competitive market.
No-one is obliged to fly with his airline - it is a matter of choice.
Being successful and being greedy are not the same thing.
Evidence of what? You started the thread, the onus is on you to justify your position, or at least explain it.
// However I enjoy, yes enjoy seeing greedy people being pulled back down to earth/ reality. Everyone has had it to easy for to long, some have been in a position to turn the screw if you like on the not so well off. Well tuff for them now, not anger at all, I'm over the moon if you like. //
I don't see why you equate running a successful business with being 'greedy'.
Mr O'Leary runs a successful business in a competitive market.
No-one is obliged to fly with his airline - it is a matter of choice.
Being successful and being greedy are not the same thing.
Go and get some cancer treatment in the US, or any operation you would like to pick, and if you think that your lifetime payments would cover it, your in dream land. Or even go private in the UK, you would need to sell your hose if you have one. May be that's why the NHS struggle at times. Plus the drunks and druggies they put up for free night after night.
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