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BIL llives at home with my MIL ......has been living there over ten years when his 2nd marriage broke up
MIL has Alzhiemer but is not bad enough, so they say, to put her in a Care Home.
My husband, the eldest child. has been given Court of Protection because BIL was unfit to. So now he is trying to sort the finanaces out.
We have mums bank statement but BIL has told us that his money is in there and he opened another one for mum where all her pension goes into.
Can she claim for anything.? and will it be for BIL for looking after her.?
On her statement there is an amount for £81.29 per week..plus another £132.80 what would these be for.? We have asked BIL but he isnt sure?
BIL llives at home with my MIL ......has been living there over ten years when his 2nd marriage broke up
MIL has Alzhiemer but is not bad enough, so they say, to put her in a Care Home.
My husband, the eldest child. has been given Court of Protection because BIL was unfit to. So now he is trying to sort the finanaces out.
We have mums bank statement but BIL has told us that his money is in there and he opened another one for mum where all her pension goes into.
Can she claim for anything.? and will it be for BIL for looking after her.?
On her statement there is an amount for £81.29 per week..plus another £132.80 what would these be for.? We have asked BIL but he isnt sure?
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No, Attendence Allowance is for your MIL's needs, it's her money, although it would be reasonable if he were taking her shopping etc for some to maybe used for fuel etc- that sort of thing is fine, but it doesn't belong to your BIL.
Your BIL doesn't need to be over 65 to claim carer's allowance but if he's in full time work it probably won't be possible as it's one of those nasty 'wage replacement' benefits, which is a bit unfair really if he does indeed care for her and do a lot for her.
If the house belongs to her she might get Council Tax benefit given her circumstances of claiming Attendance Allowance, I'll check that out more deeply:)
Your BIL doesn't need to be over 65 to claim carer's allowance but if he's in full time work it probably won't be possible as it's one of those nasty 'wage replacement' benefits, which is a bit unfair really if he does indeed care for her and do a lot for her.
If the house belongs to her she might get Council Tax benefit given her circumstances of claiming Attendance Allowance, I'll check that out more deeply:)
Okay you said your BIL was 'unfit' to be considered by the Court of Protection so some of this might apply to him as well as your MIL regarding Council Tax exemption. You'd have to check to be honest.
2.2 Council tax exemptions
Your property may be exempt from council tax charges altogether. Exemptions include if you (and everyone else living with you) are severely mentally impaired and no one else in the property is liable to pay council tax.
Severely mentally impaired means you have a 'severe impairment of intelligence and social functioning (however caused) which appears to be permanent’; and have a certificate from a registered medical practitioner confirming this. You must also be entitled to one of the following:
disability living allowance (DLA) middle or highest rate care component.
personal independence payment (PIP) daily living component (either rate).
armed forces independence payment
attendance allowance (AA), constant attendance allowance (paid as part of industrial injuries benefits or war pensions) or an equivalent benefit.
employment and support allowance.
incapacity benefit (any rate).
severe disablement allowance.
income support which includes a disability premium (or your partner has a disability premium for them included in their income-based jobseeker’s allowance).
you are over state pension age and would have been entitled to one of the above benefits if you were under state pension age.
universal credit including a ‘limited capability for work’ or a ‘limited capability for work and work-related activity’ element.
the disability element of working tax credit
you are over state pension age and would have been entitled to one of the above benefits if under state pension age
2.2 Council tax exemptions
Your property may be exempt from council tax charges altogether. Exemptions include if you (and everyone else living with you) are severely mentally impaired and no one else in the property is liable to pay council tax.
Severely mentally impaired means you have a 'severe impairment of intelligence and social functioning (however caused) which appears to be permanent’; and have a certificate from a registered medical practitioner confirming this. You must also be entitled to one of the following:
disability living allowance (DLA) middle or highest rate care component.
personal independence payment (PIP) daily living component (either rate).
armed forces independence payment
attendance allowance (AA), constant attendance allowance (paid as part of industrial injuries benefits or war pensions) or an equivalent benefit.
employment and support allowance.
incapacity benefit (any rate).
severe disablement allowance.
income support which includes a disability premium (or your partner has a disability premium for them included in their income-based jobseeker’s allowance).
you are over state pension age and would have been entitled to one of the above benefits if you were under state pension age.
universal credit including a ‘limited capability for work’ or a ‘limited capability for work and work-related activity’ element.
the disability element of working tax credit
you are over state pension age and would have been entitled to one of the above benefits if under state pension age
Thankyou again,
Could the £138.20 be my BIL I wonder as he lost the use of one arm years ago ..would he have had a benefit or pension for it do you think.?
And the reason he couldnt be Deputy in the Court of Protection was becasue he had one of those agreement where you have a lot of debts and put them into one..paying what you can and it is written off after five years. This, he says, is why he is using his mothers bank account becasue he couldnt get one of his own. Really think this isnt right but he says he knows them at the Bank and they said it was alright.?
The attendence allowence he has paid into his account as he insists it is his for looking after his mum.
He also takes her pension money for the food and petrol each week. But the bills he pays himself.
Could the £138.20 be my BIL I wonder as he lost the use of one arm years ago ..would he have had a benefit or pension for it do you think.?
And the reason he couldnt be Deputy in the Court of Protection was becasue he had one of those agreement where you have a lot of debts and put them into one..paying what you can and it is written off after five years. This, he says, is why he is using his mothers bank account becasue he couldnt get one of his own. Really think this isnt right but he says he knows them at the Bank and they said it was alright.?
The attendence allowence he has paid into his account as he insists it is his for looking after his mum.
He also takes her pension money for the food and petrol each week. But the bills he pays himself.
If he's under 65 he would only be getting DLA or the new PIP benefit that replaces it but that would be nowhere near £138-00 per week I don't think. Your mother should be entitled to State Pensions and Pension Credit of £148-35, so that's far nearer with maybe something taken off for an overpayment or something else? The Attendance Allowance is 100% not his to spend, that is for your MIL's care.
If he is claiming some sort of disability benefit regarding his arm then it might explain why they pay no council tax, but they should be sent an exemption from the council regarding that.
If you look on her bank statements it should say her national insurance number ( or his if it is a benefit for him) as a payment reference and then something like SP or PC or AA as an explanation of what it's for.
If he is claiming some sort of disability benefit regarding his arm then it might explain why they pay no council tax, but they should be sent an exemption from the council regarding that.
If you look on her bank statements it should say her national insurance number ( or his if it is a benefit for him) as a payment reference and then something like SP or PC or AA as an explanation of what it's for.
She is "ready" for a care home whenever she wants to go. There aren't any tests- just a diagnosis of dementia, if she goes to an EMI unit - although sounds as though they are happy at home? He might also be able to get (means-tested) direct payments towards her care, if he organises carers to come in and help.
pixie......that is the problem she wouldnt want to go into a care home..but BIL cannot look after her and she is being neglected at home. when he puts her in respite for two or four weeks at a time she has cried when visited and says she wants to go home. But the last time she went in she was alright and when she came home she said she wanted to go home as this wasnt her home.?
That sounds normal with dementia. A change in routine or environment can be distressing for them. Does she have a POA for health and welfare? I'm not sure if the Court of Protection order is just about finances? It sounds as though they need carers going into the home. They should be able to get Direct payments towards it, depending on any savings she has.
lilacben, you have got your plate full at the moment haven't you? I used to take people who had dementia, and had been in hospital, home for assessment visits. The idea was to work out how they might be able to manage at home again if at all possible and also to do some assessment on their level of dementia. It wasn't that uncommon for people to deny absolutely that the place we had brought them to was their home. Sometimes they would recognise their home after a short while and sometimes not.
Thankyou to you both. MIL doesnt have any savings..POA wasnt got in time and now it is too late that is why BIL went for Court of protection...but it was done without my husband and there sister knowing until the forms came in. He had stated he intended to sell the house and move her and himslef to Devon or somewhere. SIL and my husband thought it was a bad idea and sent in the forms stating they didnt want him to do that. mind you he wouldnt have been allowed to as it turned out. Anyway the Court awarded it to my husband solely.
The carers that have been in before have been sent away although the SS say they are going to send someone else in again.. thing is my BIL says they are not suitable and tells them to stop coming. It is just going round in circles.!
How bad do people with Alzhiemer have to be to be in a Care home.? When the doctor saw her the other week he said how bad she had got in a short time. and said she was on a verge of a collapse. So we thought once he had had this meeting with 10 other doctors and psychiatrist they would do something.. but the only outcome was the psychiatrist said she had seen her and she wasnt bad enough.! Brendaxx
The carers that have been in before have been sent away although the SS say they are going to send someone else in again.. thing is my BIL says they are not suitable and tells them to stop coming. It is just going round in circles.!
How bad do people with Alzhiemer have to be to be in a Care home.? When the doctor saw her the other week he said how bad she had got in a short time. and said she was on a verge of a collapse. So we thought once he had had this meeting with 10 other doctors and psychiatrist they would do something.. but the only outcome was the psychiatrist said she had seen her and she wasnt bad enough.! Brendaxx
Well noone has asked her if she wants to go into a come but I am sure she will say no...she goes to day care but within an hour of coming home she doesnt know she has been. And her long term memory has gone back to when she was a child at home. The war is the most you can rememeber. As far as she knows she never met her husband or had any children. And my BIL is some neightbours son who lives down the road.
Not sure what the doctor meant as we was told by my SIL..as she was there. She said the doctor was shocked how bad her mum had got and that all her blood test results where not good. He can ordered another set of blood tests to be taken the next day. Which was done but results came back as just her Vit D test was not good.
Not sure what the doctor meant as we was told by my SIL..as she was there. She said the doctor was shocked how bad her mum had got and that all her blood test results where not good. He can ordered another set of blood tests to be taken the next day. Which was done but results came back as just her Vit D test was not good.
Ah, ok. There are some physical problems there, but not related to the dementia. It isn't a nursing home they are talking about? That might explain why they are saying she isn't ready. Hopefully the GPs will get the results and necessary treatment from the blood tests- is she anaemic? It sounds as though there are a few different problems going on.
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