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Jokes2 mins ago
Fasting.
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I want to begin fasting for weight loss and other health benefits.
Has anybody experience of this?
Also, I know I would find it easier if I drank tea and coffee as well as water.
What is your advice?
Has anybody experience of this?
Also, I know I would find it easier if I drank tea and coffee as well as water.
What is your advice?
Answers
If you're consuming shakes, you're not fasting. Yes I've fasted for up to 3 days at a time and it's helped my IBS no end. It also make your skin clearer, brain function and eyesight sharper and gives you more energy and focus. I still had peppermint tea and black coffee but made sure I consumed plenty of water. Last week I fasted from 10am Sunday until 7pm Monday and...
06:29 Wed 03rd Feb 2021
ummm, i suggest you look into it a bit further, it is fasting.
there is a lot of medical evidence to support it, its good for your body to not be digesting all the time, it allows time for recovery and regeneration etc.
look up autophagy.
just because you dont understand something doesnt mean you should just dismiss it. the onus is on you is to look it up before you speak - like i did years ago.
why do you think the word is breakfast? its literal & it means breaking your overnight fast. fasting doesnt have to mean days on end, or to the level of making yourself ill.
We as a species are not 'meant to eat 3 meals a day' - that is a societal thing, and we now just eat when we feel like it, when we feel a bit peckish, but we dont need to.
lots of things have been advised as healthy over the years and been dismissed when we learn more about things, and realise the reality, as we get better resources and research.
just like fat is no longer considered the culprit for making people fat.
We are designed to manage very well going without food for longer periods than most of us do - how do you think we managed for millennia not having 3 meals a day and having to eat when there was food and thrive when it was scarce.
our bodies are a very clever machine- do you honestly think we'd fall apart and be ill if we miss a meal or 2?
we wouldnt have lasted as long as we have if we did.
there is a lot of medical evidence to support it, its good for your body to not be digesting all the time, it allows time for recovery and regeneration etc.
look up autophagy.
just because you dont understand something doesnt mean you should just dismiss it. the onus is on you is to look it up before you speak - like i did years ago.
why do you think the word is breakfast? its literal & it means breaking your overnight fast. fasting doesnt have to mean days on end, or to the level of making yourself ill.
We as a species are not 'meant to eat 3 meals a day' - that is a societal thing, and we now just eat when we feel like it, when we feel a bit peckish, but we dont need to.
lots of things have been advised as healthy over the years and been dismissed when we learn more about things, and realise the reality, as we get better resources and research.
just like fat is no longer considered the culprit for making people fat.
We are designed to manage very well going without food for longer periods than most of us do - how do you think we managed for millennia not having 3 meals a day and having to eat when there was food and thrive when it was scarce.
our bodies are a very clever machine- do you honestly think we'd fall apart and be ill if we miss a meal or 2?
we wouldnt have lasted as long as we have if we did.
You have a point Joko - I remember when I was younger and my friend was the same as me - we found that when we ate breakfast like they all tell you to do - we just ate and ate and ate the rest of the day.
But if we done without breakfast we could pretty much fast all day not meaning to just hadn't time.
I am still a bit like that - (it doesn't happen very often) but if I don't eat breakfast and I'm busy - I could last until about 8.00pm but I don't be so busy now.
When we used to go on holidays I had two friends (sisters) - they just couldn't believe how little I ate that one of the sisters used to eat my breakfast. They never could understand how I survived like all day without food. Am still not that big of an eater but am older and lethargic now. Also danced about 4 nights a week when younger.
But if we done without breakfast we could pretty much fast all day not meaning to just hadn't time.
I am still a bit like that - (it doesn't happen very often) but if I don't eat breakfast and I'm busy - I could last until about 8.00pm but I don't be so busy now.
When we used to go on holidays I had two friends (sisters) - they just couldn't believe how little I ate that one of the sisters used to eat my breakfast. They never could understand how I survived like all day without food. Am still not that big of an eater but am older and lethargic now. Also danced about 4 nights a week when younger.
New Judge have you read jokos post Thursday @19:25? They've given an excellent explanation of why fasting can be beneficial, while still eating a normal and nutritious amount of food. There us currently a lot of research being done regarding moderate, intermittent fasting both for weight loss, diabetes management along with general health.
woofgang, some people will feel that way sometimes, but often you wont.
that happens for various reasons - i have it too sometimes and in those times i abandon my fast, its about listening to your body i guess.
but once to pass that initial tummy rumbling, it usually passes - even just a big glass of water will make that pass.
that happens for various reasons - i have it too sometimes and in those times i abandon my fast, its about listening to your body i guess.
but once to pass that initial tummy rumbling, it usually passes - even just a big glass of water will make that pass.
Not going on any medical advice etc, just personal experience, but since losing smell/ appetite etc and interest in food I lost well over 50lbs. (Mt wardrobe isn’t happy lol). Now, still struggling with actual meals, I can happily have a full milk protein shake in the morning, a cup/ bowl of home made soup for lunch(I even made bread last night to go with it!) and then a bit of dinner. Last night was garlic chicken and salad.
//New Judge have you read jokos post Thursday @19:25?//
Yes I have. What I’ve also read is this:
//Today is day three of the fast. Still not hungry.
Have still been having tea and coffee.
Maybe water only is the next logical step.
I hope I get through today, but I won't be silly, and will eat if necessary.//
That is not a sensible thing to do, especially when the weather is cold. The effects of such a strategy – especially if it leads to “Maybe only water is the next logical step” will lead to serious illness. See what happens to the bodies of people who go on hunger strike.
//new judge - dont be silly. do some research.//
Don’t need to because I attended the school of the bleeding obvious. Your body has to undertake functions which require energy, even when you are doing nothing. That energy can come from either food or stored body fat. It should not come solely from stored fat. “Autophagy” which you mention is a function carried out by the body, usually when it is under stress. It is an automatic function rather akin to adrenalin kicking in when required. Your body should not be deliberately placed in that condition for prolonged periods.
To compare 24/7 fasting with not eating whilst asleep is just about the most ridiculous comparison I’ve heard of for some time. Whilst asleep the body undergoes all sorts of changes to its daytime functions. One of them is that it does not move about much or undertake much brain function. It is a restorative process and eating during it would be impractical. Yes we all know what “breakfast” means, but you should not assume the same meaning for a night time fast as you would for a daytime one.
The odd day without food will do no healthy person any harm. But put simply, encouraging someone to fast 24/7 for prolonged periods without proper medical supervision is dangerous and irresponsible.
Yes I have. What I’ve also read is this:
//Today is day three of the fast. Still not hungry.
Have still been having tea and coffee.
Maybe water only is the next logical step.
I hope I get through today, but I won't be silly, and will eat if necessary.//
That is not a sensible thing to do, especially when the weather is cold. The effects of such a strategy – especially if it leads to “Maybe only water is the next logical step” will lead to serious illness. See what happens to the bodies of people who go on hunger strike.
//new judge - dont be silly. do some research.//
Don’t need to because I attended the school of the bleeding obvious. Your body has to undertake functions which require energy, even when you are doing nothing. That energy can come from either food or stored body fat. It should not come solely from stored fat. “Autophagy” which you mention is a function carried out by the body, usually when it is under stress. It is an automatic function rather akin to adrenalin kicking in when required. Your body should not be deliberately placed in that condition for prolonged periods.
To compare 24/7 fasting with not eating whilst asleep is just about the most ridiculous comparison I’ve heard of for some time. Whilst asleep the body undergoes all sorts of changes to its daytime functions. One of them is that it does not move about much or undertake much brain function. It is a restorative process and eating during it would be impractical. Yes we all know what “breakfast” means, but you should not assume the same meaning for a night time fast as you would for a daytime one.
The odd day without food will do no healthy person any harm. But put simply, encouraging someone to fast 24/7 for prolonged periods without proper medical supervision is dangerous and irresponsible.
New Judge - Are you joking? No-one here has mentioned 24/7 fasting, or 3 day fasts!
the fasts mentioned have not even been full day ones!
3 day fasts are extreme and not recommended for most people.
i dont know if youre just trying to backtrack now you've been proven wrong, and pretend you only meant extreme fasting is dangerous, but if not you might want to actually read posts and try to understand whats being said before jumping in.
and yes, very definitely do some research! you are just jumping to conclusions based on assumptions and thats never a good thing.
the fasts mentioned have not even been full day ones!
3 day fasts are extreme and not recommended for most people.
i dont know if youre just trying to backtrack now you've been proven wrong, and pretend you only meant extreme fasting is dangerous, but if not you might want to actually read posts and try to understand whats being said before jumping in.
and yes, very definitely do some research! you are just jumping to conclusions based on assumptions and thats never a good thing.
ah i see why now - no-one advised theland to do 3 day fasts. or to fast 24:7 - one person said theyve done them, to explain why it benefitted them.
he has chosen to do one of his own accord.
the fasts hes been advised to do are the 5:2, the 16:8 or even just missing a few meals.
i certainly would not advise a sick man to not eat for 3 whole days.
but a healthy one would have no problem trying it and see how they do.
he has chosen to do one of his own accord.
the fasts hes been advised to do are the 5:2, the 16:8 or even just missing a few meals.
i certainly would not advise a sick man to not eat for 3 whole days.
but a healthy one would have no problem trying it and see how they do.
