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Ukrainians Forced Into Russian Slave Labour Camps
Varying reports but I've seen numbers from 4000 to 70,000 quoted. However many, this has a familiar ring to it. Shades of 1930s Germany - and the world watches - again.
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These people are savages.
I was reading about the woman from Brovary, east of Kyiv, who was visited by Russian “soldiers” who shot their dog, and vandalised the family car. They later returned and shot the husband in the garden and threatened to shoot her in front of her 4-year old son.
They then returned a third time and raped her multiple times while her son cowered in a nearby room.
And this is only one of hundreds of incidents
I was reading about the woman from Brovary, east of Kyiv, who was visited by Russian “soldiers” who shot their dog, and vandalised the family car. They later returned and shot the husband in the garden and threatened to shoot her in front of her 4-year old son.
They then returned a third time and raped her multiple times while her son cowered in a nearby room.
And this is only one of hundreds of incidents
// Shades of 1930s Germany - and the world watches - again.//
nope - sorry this sort of stuff has to be refuted as it occurs
Shades of 1930s Stalin - and the world watches - again. - not quite. The Allied POWs in 1945 were terrified that they would be liberated by the Russians and herded into Gulags as were the German POWs
and so... at Yalta ( you know the one where Togo asked - foo has he mis-spelt Malta, that one) it was agreed that the Death Marches which involved POW camps, either wd come west ( and be liberated by the AMericans )OR go west to Odessa and be trans-shipped back to the west
One made it ( Barbed Wire Doctor: One Doctor's War by Crook, A. (ISBN: 9781858213835).
The whole summer 1945, allied foreign policy ( returning the Cossacks to the deaths in Russia) was predicated to whether or not Stalin would hang onto the English French and American POWs.(*)
If we are going to re-write history can we please make it credible
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The Minister and the Massacres (1986) is a history written by Nikolai Tolstoy about the 1945 repatriations of Croatian soldiers and civilians and Cossacks, who had crossed into Austria seeking refuge from the Red Army and Partisans who had taken control in Yugoslavia.
nope - sorry this sort of stuff has to be refuted as it occurs
Shades of 1930s Stalin - and the world watches - again. - not quite. The Allied POWs in 1945 were terrified that they would be liberated by the Russians and herded into Gulags as were the German POWs
and so... at Yalta ( you know the one where Togo asked - foo has he mis-spelt Malta, that one) it was agreed that the Death Marches which involved POW camps, either wd come west ( and be liberated by the AMericans )OR go west to Odessa and be trans-shipped back to the west
One made it ( Barbed Wire Doctor: One Doctor's War by Crook, A. (ISBN: 9781858213835).
The whole summer 1945, allied foreign policy ( returning the Cossacks to the deaths in Russia) was predicated to whether or not Stalin would hang onto the English French and American POWs.(*)
If we are going to re-write history can we please make it credible
(*)
The Minister and the Massacres (1986) is a history written by Nikolai Tolstoy about the 1945 repatriations of Croatian soldiers and civilians and Cossacks, who had crossed into Austria seeking refuge from the Red Army and Partisans who had taken control in Yugoslavia.
PP, // Shades of 1930s Germany - and the world watches - again.//
//// nope - sorry this sort of stuff has to be refuted as it occurs ////
Nothing to 'refute'. Incidentally, it's courteous to attribute your copying and pasting - in your case in this instance, Wiki.
Corby, this is what the BBC says.
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//// nope - sorry this sort of stuff has to be refuted as it occurs ////
Nothing to 'refute'. Incidentally, it's courteous to attribute your copying and pasting - in your case in this instance, Wiki.
Corby, this is what the BBC says.
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“ of course the bbc is always correct (not)
if you want the NEWS use Aljazeera ch 235 as the corbyloon says are these verified reports”
That’s rather a ridiculous remark.
Why are you quibbling about which news channel is better than another?
Some of these reports are not verified and indeed probably not verifiable but people are disappearing if that there is no doubt and we know people have been moved to Russia against their will
if you want the NEWS use Aljazeera ch 235 as the corbyloon says are these verified reports”
That’s rather a ridiculous remark.
Why are you quibbling about which news channel is better than another?
Some of these reports are not verified and indeed probably not verifiable but people are disappearing if that there is no doubt and we know people have been moved to Russia against their will
What can we do? For a start, give the Ukrainians more weapons to fight with, and stop watching them beg for more. The latter only gives Putin more confidence to carry on doing whats he's doing. And Again I say, murdering people in and about their homes because his so called army are to yellow to fight the Ukrainian army face to face.
""Russia has said it is evacuating thousands of civilians of their own free will.
But Mariupol City Council claims that in total, about 15,000 residents have been subjected to illegal deportation since the invasion began.
‘Residents of the Left Bank district are beginning to be deported en masse to Russia,’ a statement on Telegram said on Thursday.
Authorities have also claimed that some citizens sent to ‘distant parts of Russia’ are being forced to work without payment, sparking comparisons with the conduct of the Nazis during World War Two.""
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^^ You may need to open that link "In Private Window".
and
""Mr Orlov told the Sun: “Russian troops are bursting into cellars and basements where our people are hiding like frightened mice and telling them: ‘You have 15 minutes to leave.’
“If they refuse to come out the buildings are destroyed, leaving families entombed.
"We have made contact with people who have told us what is happening — they are being taken off to Russia to work for the state in depressed areas.""
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and
""Thousands of Ukrainian residents of the besieged city of Mariupol have reportedly been “forcibly” moved to cities in the Russian interior over the past week.
The civilians were allegedly taken to “filtration” camps that the city’s mayor likened to World War II-era concentration camps, where Russian forces allegedly seized their phones and documents before transporting them to other “remote cities in Russia.
City officials compared the situation to Nazi concentration camps.
“What the occupiers are doing today is familiar to the older generation, who saw the horrific events of World War II, when the Nazis forcibly captured people,” the press release from Mariupol Mayor Vadym Boichenko said.
“It is hard to imagine that in the 21st century people can be forcibly taken to another country.""
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If that isn't like some vile echo of Nazi Germany in WW2 Nothing is.
But Mariupol City Council claims that in total, about 15,000 residents have been subjected to illegal deportation since the invasion began.
‘Residents of the Left Bank district are beginning to be deported en masse to Russia,’ a statement on Telegram said on Thursday.
Authorities have also claimed that some citizens sent to ‘distant parts of Russia’ are being forced to work without payment, sparking comparisons with the conduct of the Nazis during World War Two.""
https:/
^^ You may need to open that link "In Private Window".
and
""Mr Orlov told the Sun: “Russian troops are bursting into cellars and basements where our people are hiding like frightened mice and telling them: ‘You have 15 minutes to leave.’
“If they refuse to come out the buildings are destroyed, leaving families entombed.
"We have made contact with people who have told us what is happening — they are being taken off to Russia to work for the state in depressed areas.""
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and
""Thousands of Ukrainian residents of the besieged city of Mariupol have reportedly been “forcibly” moved to cities in the Russian interior over the past week.
The civilians were allegedly taken to “filtration” camps that the city’s mayor likened to World War II-era concentration camps, where Russian forces allegedly seized their phones and documents before transporting them to other “remote cities in Russia.
City officials compared the situation to Nazi concentration camps.
“What the occupiers are doing today is familiar to the older generation, who saw the horrific events of World War II, when the Nazis forcibly captured people,” the press release from Mariupol Mayor Vadym Boichenko said.
“It is hard to imagine that in the 21st century people can be forcibly taken to another country.""
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If that isn't like some vile echo of Nazi Germany in WW2 Nothing is.
In 1986 I vowed never to believe ANYTHING that the Daily Mail printed. (Or any other press)
I was involved in a story, at the time, that the actual reporter apologised because he had to rewrite it to give a different slant on it by order of his editor.
I was 20 at the time.
Im 56 now and would not believe a word of mainstream journalism.
Not after seeing that pile of sh** printed as fact!!
Especially the Daily Mail.
Its a comic!
I was involved in a story, at the time, that the actual reporter apologised because he had to rewrite it to give a different slant on it by order of his editor.
I was 20 at the time.
Im 56 now and would not believe a word of mainstream journalism.
Not after seeing that pile of sh** printed as fact!!
Especially the Daily Mail.
Its a comic!
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